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  1. supercrap is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Thanks for clearing that up.

    They train it but they don't want faces like bruised fruit just for a comp. Understandable!
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    The clip was pretty good. But, I see many techniques that would otherwise have some of you poo pooing it if it were from a different style.

    Asia,

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     Style: none currently, ex-TSK

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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuDoesWork
    The clip was pretty good. But, I see many techniques that would otherwise have some of you poo pooing it if it were from a different style.

    Asia,

    I wanna do your avatar.
    Examples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuDoesWork
    Asia,

    I wanna do your avatar.
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     Style: LongFist CMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodar
    Examples?

    High head level kicks, standing punches without a gaurd, etc.
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    Posted On:
    12/02/2004 2:05am


     Style: Kyokushin Karate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia
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    Ok for the umpteenth time.

    KYOKUSHIN DOES PRACTICE PUNCHING TO THE HEAD!!!!! DID YOU MISS THE CLIPS SHOWING OYAMA SPARRING AND *gasp* PUNCHING TO THE HEAD!!!

    In COMPETITION (read slowly) when fighting bareknuckle they don't allow it for safety reasons. If they were gloves, and some Kyokushin comps do, then head shots are allowed. The rules of the Competition doesn't represent the total scope of the art.

    There are throws and fighting form the ground in Kyokushin. Plus many KK guys have trained in Judo or other grappling arts. Look a Joko Ninyomina's SABAKI METHOD he goes over ground grappling, I like the sweep to triangle choke, he was a Judo BB before doing KK. Oyama also studied Judo and Jujutsu but th strong point of KK is striking so thats what it focuses on.

    Here is a quote from Crane69 on his webpage before he took it down:

    "Even one as good as Matsui is susceptible to the flaws of the Kyokushin style. In the 3rd World Open, he was hit again & again to the face by a flurry of punches from an Indian fighter who did not care much for the rules. Matsui was brought down a few times due to these "foul punches". The Indian fighter was of course disqualified, but from here we can see that unlike the first generation students of Oyama (& he himself), the later generations of Karate fighters knew not how to defend their head from punches by a good boxer!"

    For the whole article, you can refer to this site: http://kyokushinway.net/kyokushin/bb...shintext&no=15

    Crane69 is a Nidan in KK. Anyway, I'm not here to bash Kyokushin Karate. The problem is that most fighters train for KK competition and KK competition does not allow for punches to the face. The above example is a good one. You saw the HL video, you know his fighting abilities.

    However, I must say that alot of KK fighters like Filho, Feitosa and Andy Hug have adapted to face punching when put into an environment that allows. Kyokushin Karate is a great art, one of the best in my opinion. It will give you a good foundation for stand-up fighting.

    As for the comments about people learning Judo before KK, that was in the past. I doubt many KK fighters nowadays have a background in Judo. And, Sabaki is Enshin/Aishihara Karate, IKO1 does not teach fighting from the ground. As for the throws, again, the competitions don't allow for it so most don't train for the few throws that KK has.
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    Posted On:
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    Francisco and Glaube trained some boxing/kickboxing before going to K1
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    This clip is just more evidence in support of my hypothesis that martial artists, and sport people in general, have awful taste in music.
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    Posted On:
    12/02/2004 4:41am


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    maybe matsui wanted to show something like "even if the opponent uses head punches in comp, i can still win, lolz"

    @ asia
    is rumble roses already out? i thought i had to wait till early 2005
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     Style: Aikido, bad breath

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    top notch clip
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