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  1. Feryk is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Great resource, Piz. It did help. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who coughs over Can Chaser's analogy. Hell, my sphincter clenched just reading it. I kept picturing toonies...gives the ridged edges on that coin a whole new meaning...

    Johnny Five, I tried the test, and it didn't move out, so I guess it's not a rupture, but it sure as hell isn't stable. Maybe I need a ligament reconstruction instead of a whole hog replacement...I'll know after the 16th. Thanks for that.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I tore my ACL in February, had surgery on March 1st. I was back training (modified) in June. The Dr. says I can get rid of the knee brace in January.

    I had a patellar tendon graft to repair the ACL.

    I am now almost back to full speed.
    People of integrity expect to be believed. When they're not, they let time prove them right.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    HMO's are not much better than Canada's system in terms of seeing a specialist. Last time I needed to see one they had a six month wait. And you still have the HMO trying to cut corners where ever possible.

    Didn't Bill Wallace compete with a bum knee? That's why he always kicked from one leg I think, because the other couldn't support his body properly. Once you get your knee fixed you might want to think about training that way.
    Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
  4. PizDoff is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    Great resource, Piz. It did help. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who coughs over Can Chaser's analogy. Hell, my sphincter clenched just reading it. I kept picturing toonies...gives the ridged edges on that coin a whole new meaning...

    Johnny Five, I tried the test, and it didn't move out, so I guess it's not a rupture, but it sure as hell isn't stable. Maybe I need a ligament reconstruction instead of a whole hog replacement...I'll know after the 16th. Thanks for that.
    You missed what my cough was for.
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  5. Gumby is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk
    Okay, so I tore my ACL when I was 18 and had surgery to fix it up. The bastard who fixed me told me I would never be able to kickbox again, so I believed him...for 14 years.

    I started again in Karate at the young age of 32
    Bottom line: 7-10 weeks of physio, followed by months of gym training. The sites tell me 9 months to a year away from the dojo. After that, though, I should be better than ever.

    Does anyone here know anything about ACL injuries? Anybody have any GOOD news? :BangHead:
    I'll tell you straight up that doc is full of ****.

    I've got some relatively good new (i guess)

    I tore my ACL almost a year ago (will be a full year in febuary) while training for the April Pan Am games. I went for a crude hip throw/leg trip and my knee popped 3 X as I was pulled to the side- it was literally frozen in place at like a 90 degree angle. When I got it checked out, the doc first thought I'd need surgery, but eventually changed his mind when the results of his tests on my ACL improved (guess because I have flexible joints).

    The day after this happened I went in to train again (if anything, do some positioning). My instructor is also world reknown for his conditioning techniques, and had me doing exercises to regain my range of motion. Within 2 months of this injury, I was fighting in the Pan Am games and my knee held up rather well, simply because of the strengthening exercises and joint mobilty exercises I did.

    Bottom line is, if you injure one of your ligaments (especially the ACL, since its too difficult for your body to repair) you HAVE to strengthen the surrounding muscles of you knee (quags, hamstrings, and calves) in order to give extra support to your knee.

    I even know one guy I used to train with who had his acl completely torn in a NAGA tournament, but didnt want surgery since it was his senior year in college, so hes been training in Muay Thai since (with no acl) and says hes never had any problems.
  6. Feryk is offline

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    Well, the initial assessment is in - and it ain't good.

    The doc said My ACL is gone, apparently my PCL is (at the very least) damaged, and my MCL is pretty stretched, and possibly torn. And here I thought I was just being a wimp. :icon_roll

    So, now I have to do some physio therapy to get ready for surgery, I'm supposed to wear my neoprene brace everywhere I go (not fun), and I am banned from Karate until after my surgery (and 6-9 months of physio/conditioning).

    I'll be needing a better brace ($800 bucks), and if I want to have surgery anytime in the next three months, I have to shell out for my own MRI (another $800).

    Oh happy frickin' day!

    But at least it'll be stronger when I'm done. That's what I'm focussing on.
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    wow that sucks. Here in the US, my HMO pays for everything except my 35 dollar ER copay, and a 10 dollar doctor visit co-pay. I got an appointment with my GP next day, and my MRI is free with my orthopedist appointment and that is on monday. There is no excuse for young males not to have health insurance in the US. It costs about 100 dollars a month, thats like a sausage mcmuffin with cheese a day, I mean come on. Trying to act like insurance is some magical privilege that only the rich can afford is nuts.

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    In Canada we have 'universal healthcare', which is supposedly the envy of the entire world. In reality, we have a hell of a lot of diagnositcs that take way too damn long.

    I was lucky. My MRI was scheduled for March 1st, without me having to shell out any cash. They told me to expect June-July.

    I pay a provincial healthcare premium, but it's actually pretty cheap. It's about $1000/year for my whole family (wife + 2kids). I have group benefits that will cover 50% of the brace cost, and $1000 worth of physiotherapy, so it's not that bad.
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    ACL reconstruction here also. Lots of fun.

    The good news is you CAN and WILL return at 99%. It may not seem like it. The pain might be intense. But you can do it.
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    Thanks, man. I'm surprised at how much words of encouragement mean at a time like this.
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