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  1. fernando is offline
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     Style: stand up,clinch,ground

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    so what if this complete art has really bad training methods?
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     Style: Shi Ja Quan

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    I would rather train in a "specialised" system, with the righgt training methods, than a "complete" one with static, dead and obsolete training methods.
    I would have more of a chance to survive that way.
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     Style: Currently a BJJ noob

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    You said.
    there are no bad styles only bad training methods
    So TKD is equal to BJJ if they train the same?

    Training methods are important. But, if the style has glaring holes, then training methods won't make that much difference. It not what you know that could get you killed, but what you don't know, as the old adegage goes. I cannot believe this HAD to be explained.
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     Style: BJJ - Homeland Security

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    A complete art has Striking, Grappling
    Not a single art fits that description (unless you count Judo atemi :icon_roll ).

    Quote Originally Posted by lama_xy
    My main curiousity about KM and JKD is whether they are actual "styles"? Or a collection of "techniques"?
    Because both systems are based on principles, not techniques, they are more effective than the stylistic arts :911flag:
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     Style: San shou(tai chi) +judo

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    Tai chi, koshinken karate(old school), old muay thai and does MMA count?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.
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     Style: Judo & Sub Wrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by samurai_steve
    ...So that's what I'm getting at. At what point would one consider themselves capable enough to judge another style, especially if they've never practiced it?
    I took Krav Maga for a year(got up to Level III), and it blows. I feel feel more confident in my fighting abilities by taking Judo, which is a friggin' SPORT, than I ever did in Krav.

    Ask HAPKO3, he's another former Krav student. It seems all well and good while you're taking it, but then when you rub Darren Levine goo off of your eyes and look around, you realize that all those plucks and groin kicks are going to do is make you look like a complete ass, WHILE you're getting a sufficient beat down placed upon your skull.
    Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that kickboxing is commonly known as fighting while grappling simply isn't. - Osiris
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     Style: Shi Ja Quan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shumagorath
    Not a single art fits that description (unless you count Judo atemi :icon_roll ).



    Because both systems are based on principles, not techniques, they are more effective than the stylistic arts :911flag:
    Remind me to show you the "ineffectivness" of MA styles at the next throwdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shumagorath
    Not a single art fits that description (unless you count Judo atemi :icon_roll ).
    JJJ has both, and I thought BJJ did as well.
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     Style: Equator

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    BRUCE LEE VS MORGAN FREEMAN
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     Style: Shi Ja Quan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    JJJ has both, and I thought BJJ did as well.
    Other than the Tenshin shinyo-ryu, JJJ is sorry lacking in decent striking, and as for BJJ, we all know who reknown they are for their striking techniques.
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