Guard pulling from knees?

[Xango]

So, in ne waza randori, I've been working a lot on submissions from guard. As a result I have been pulling guard from the knees. Problem is, half the time I get passed on the way in, because I've been thinking of the guard pull as merely setting up the randori, whereas my partners, understandably, see it as an opportunity to pin me.

Any tips on this combat-useless and totally auxiliary skill? I'd rather just pull it than tell them I'm going to start in guard.

[Aesopian]

Pulling guard from knees against a resistant opponent helps you learn to recover guard and defend guard passes.

[Aesopian]

As for having trouble pulling guard, what are they doing that stops you?

[Xango]

Well, yes. Point taken. Tips? Grip, which leg to extend first, what?

[Xango]

As for having trouble pulling guard, what are they doing that stops you?

Passing? :happy7:

Mostly they're getting control of the leg I extend and going over the knee into scarf hold or side control.

[WhiteShark]

Try leaping at them like a Thai hooker then once they are wrapped up fall back and let them enter your embrace.

[Aesopian]

WhiteShark is correct. If you want the closed guard, I pull it like Thai hooker when your pimp is in town.

As for grips, for starters, just grab both lapels, leap and pull!

[fernando]

try different types of guard, closed guard, butterfly, go for sweeps etc.

[Bang!]

Grab their wrists?

And I assume that you will have considered this one already, but I'll toss it out anyway: Get their weight moving upward. If they're uprooted, then they shouldn't have enough stability to push your leg aside

[JKDChick]

Tried pulling it from just one knee? I've had a lot of success grabbing the label and falling backwards, kicking off the foot that's planted and using the momentum to pull them into my guard.

Did that make any sense?