Thread: TKD vs. MT Clip Revisited.
11/23/2004 12:31pm, #1
TKD vs. MT Clip Revisited.
Remember the TKD vs. MT clip that keeps floating around, where the TKD fighter dominates completely, executing spinning jump kicks, double kicks, etc. and winning the fight while keeping his hands down at his waist throughout? This one. Now when I first saw it, I thought it was pretty cool. However, the more I think about it, the more fishy it seems. Let's look at it in some more detail. Before you make judgements and call me a MT nutrider (which I'm not) take a closer look.
1) The Thai boxer's not keeping his hands up. That's pretty atypical - generally, MT people learn to keep their hands up after the first few practice rounds. It just hurts too much when you don't. As of itself, this proves nothing, but let's keep going.
2) Look at his stance and posture, even when they're not engaged. Now I'm not an expert, but it looks nothing like any kickboxing I've ever seen, even at the low amateur level.
3) Look at how the Thai boxer retreats traight back every time. One of the first things they teach you in kickboxing is footwork. You never take more than two steps straight back - you either circle around or go forward.
4) 31 seconds into the clip, the Thai boxer attempts to block a low kick with his arm. A classical TMA low-block, that you will NEVER see in MT. Blocking low kicks like that is a good way to get your arm broken, and even if it doesn't break, a low kick will simply blast right through it.
5) If you look closely at the knockdown on the 46th second, you will see that the kick hits the shoulder and not the neck. I've never seen a knockdown from hitting a shoulder.
6) If you look at what goes on between 10 and 13 seconds, you will see the Thai boxer defending his head by turning away. That's also something people learn not to do a month into kickboxing. Kickboxers will cover up, tilt their head forward, but NEVER turn away.
7) The one time the Thai boxer throws a low kick, it looks nothing like a MT kick, he chambers his leg and leans away as he throws it (remind you of anything?).
Now any one of these things, as of itself, wouldn't mean much. However, there's just too many things that seem funny here. Basically, whatever thig guy is doing dosn't look like any Thai boxing I've ever seen. In fact, he moved and did things (arm blocking a low kick, posture, etc) in a way that's pretty typical for TKD and or Karate of some sort. In my opinon, one of the two must be true.
a) The Thai boxer's not a Thai boxer at all, and the entire thing is a cross-dressing show (The Thai boxer is another TKD guy).
b) The Thai boxer has no real experience and comes from a TMA background.
Now I'm not saying that there's no way for a TKD fighter to beat a Thai boxer. There is. The thing is, though, that he'd have to keep his hands up to do it, and the fight would look very different from what we see on this clip.
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11/23/2004 12:35pm, #2
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11/23/2004 12:43pm, #3
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11/23/2004 12:44pm, #4Originally Posted by Osiris
I've seen this clip brought up in arguments here recently, and everyone just let it stand, so I figured it's worth taking a closer look.You say what about my rice?
11/23/2004 12:46pm, #5
11/23/2004 12:48pm, #6
Basically, nobody could translate the guy's name, so we couldn't find out if he was a real MT fighter. That would easily solve this whole thing.
11/23/2004 12:54pm, #7
11/23/2004 1:13pm, #8
11/23/2004 1:18pm, #9Originally Posted by Osiris
11/23/2004 1:19pm, #10
His face was messed up too, he was just harder to see due to a beard and a dark complexion, you could still make it out though.