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  1. Bang! is offline
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     Style: Wu Style TCC + BJJ

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    JJJ Question

    For whatever reason, we've been working a bunch of stand-up joint locks in class lately. For the sake of training, we've been using them as ways to move the other person, but I'm not crazy about this approach.

    In the context of actual application, it seems like I'd be better off just snapping these things on and going for instant damage. In any case, I know that JJJ people do a lot of similar stuff and was wondering what the standard approach (i.e. submitting vs. good ole breaking ****) is.
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     Style: Krav / (Kick)Boxing / BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    *note* I'm not a JJJ practioner

    Depending on the circumstance, breaking something could put you at a significant legal liability. If a soccer dad starts jabbing you in the chest with his index finger, you can't break a digit or a limb because he technically assaulted you.

    On the other hand, putting him in a joint lock and embarassing him has no legal recourse. :)
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    I'm not worried about defending myself on the corner of Glass St. and Lava Ave. That's what kicks to the nuts are for. I just want an alternative viewpoint on application.
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    11/18/2004 3:06pm


     Style: stand up,clinch,ground

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    how much resistance are you using with your training partner?

    are you isolating the move or drill?
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    most of the stand up grappling we do at my school involves tying the person up and/or throwing them on the ground, not too many stand up limb destruction. so mostly throws and pain compliance.
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    you are refering to "come alongs" ?
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    Yes, of the jointlock variety. I'm distinguishing because your phrasing reminds me of a story about Ed Parker and co. Word has it that, when they would hold MA tournaments back in the day, there would always be a few big yahoos that would start **** up. Parker's guys would "escort" them to the door using a variation of the elementary teacher-style earlobe tug. In this case, however, they would grab the other guy's nipple and lead him out. According to what I heard, it really didn't matter how big the other guy was; he would follow.
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     Style: Wu Style TCC + BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I just wanted to get a second opinion on the use of standing locks for control, leading, etc.
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    I've always been taught that you have a choice. Really, outside of the dojo, you have the choice of submitting somebody, making them move, or outright breaking the limb. For me, it depends on how bad they pissed me off. In Aikido, the leading is usually done to make them face down on the floor and you lead them toward their point of imbalance.
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    Posted On:
    11/18/2004 11:21pm


     Style: Daito Ryu, BJJ noob

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I agree with Te No Kage. Also, sanding locks can also be transition techniques in either throws or multiple break options.
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