Letai????

**JBliss** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 2:51pm

Hey I fight
I know some Kung Fooey
anybody know how I can get in on some kung fooey style fist fights for fun?
I do recall somebody telling me that folks still fought Le Tai matches here in the States
What, where? what are the rules? the ins and outs the interested parties?
I like Martial Arts
Martial Arts is fun.

I am the Dynamo Jones

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 3:27pm

hey man, i think i was the one that told you that...

lei tai does indeed exist still... next event is http://www.usckfnorth.org/main/content/view/15/26/

these guys organize an event in baltimore every july http://usckf.org/

you don't have to be from a kung fu school to fight.

takedowns are allowed but you can't touch the knee on the way down (so wrestling shoots don't count for points, but if you keep the knee off the mat you can do a high shoot.)

**ojgsxr6** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 3:30pm

Are there any orgs that do Lei Tei in NY, that are also open to Non Kung Fu people, Ming?

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 3:39pm

not as far as i know.

martial arts tournaments are very hard to hold in new york.

for one thing they used to be illegal (i guess that has changed.) but the liability and insurance costs are out of control here.

for that reason, most tournaments are held in jersey, and even they tend to not hold full contact fights (again, insurance is WAY too expansive for that stuff.)

i heard about george crayton holding a tournament in long island, but he didn't have a lei tai division. my organization hosts the wong fei hung memorial tournament every september, and we don't have a lei tai division either (i would if i was in charge, but i am not.)

so far it seems that the baltimore one is it for the east coast, which sucks cause the only tournaments that interest me at this point are MMA and lei tai.

**JBliss** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 5:38pm

Oh sweet thank Ming
I think I'll try to get in on this...seems like some fast paced fighting...I dig man I dig

**HwangJangLee** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 7:26pm

sorry for being a dumbass noob, but i had to ask, what is Le Tai???

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 8:03pm

Originally Posted by HwangJangLee

sorry for being a dumbass noob, but i had to ask, what is Le Tai???

Funny thing is I know the Le Tai as the fighting platform on San Da and San Shou Competitions. Go click on the link and find out.

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 9:02pm

I thought the platform itself was called a lei tan

**kikkoman** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 9:19pm

I think the lea tai is that big wooden platform that they fight on. I think you can win by pushing someone off the platform (just like in sumo wrestling).

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 3/22/2006 10:06pm

yes, the platform is also called a lei tai, and for some reason, the name has also come to represent a ruleset as well.

basic rules:

you can punch, kick, knee elbow and throw/takedown as well as run someone off the platform.

once someone goes down points are awarded if the technique was clean, and the fighters are stood up, and the action continues. (it is no longer a win if you get your opponent off the platform, just a lot of points.)

equipment is headgear with face cage, and fingerless gloves (unforrtunately mainly the "cobra mitt" type, but some of us are lobbying for shooto gloves to be allowed.)

fights are full contact.

there are more specific rules at the website i listed.

IMHO- it's a great ruleset, but would be better with some limited groundfighting added in, better gloves, and i hate the face cages. the nice thing is that it separates the kung fu schools who fight and those who don't.