Thread: Ninjutsu: Fact or Fiction
12/19/2004 2:58pm, #151
Ninjas age like fine wine.
12/19/2004 3:28pm, #152Originally Posted by ronin69Ghost of Charles Dickens
12/19/2004 3:48pm, #153
Defending against today's ninja's is easy. Just don't pay their $10,000 fee and they wont attack you.
12/19/2004 3:55pm, #154Originally Posted by Freddy
12/19/2004 5:02pm, #155Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
12/19/2004 6:03pm, #156
Are you sure about that? From my understanding most bujutsu schools would be offended if they are said to have taught ninjutsu.
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Lists it in the system description. It isn't listed in Yagyu Shinkage ryu description... maybe it is not be a formalized sub-section but is part of the oral teachings, which seems to have often been the case with this category of techniques.
Kukishin ryu also contained what might now be called "ninjutsu," including 'secret scouting techniques,' disguise and impersonation, weather divination, etc.
From http://www.shinjin.co.jp/kuki/hyoho/index_e.html :
"Katyufujin-hen remind us of secret scouting techniques, but they exist only in the form of oral instruction; there exist documents 2 concerning detailed instruction of the techniques, but the actual techniques are lost today."
In short, there were no such thing as "ninja" per se, but samurai doing things later referred to as ninjutsu. These tactics were used in any region of the world during military and political strife. Any imaginary distinction or even the notion that such tactics were looked down upon, came about in times of relative peace when the samurai were slowly losing their power and looked for ways to maintain a sense of elitism. Bujutsu systems that predate the Tokagawa shogunate almost definately contain "ninjutsu" though it was not labelled as such at the time.