The Groundfighting FAQ. Help wanted.

**Kungfoolss** · Posted On: 1/26/2005 12:51am

Originally Posted by hedgehogey

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Q: Doesn't the presence of broken glass, needles, lava, sharks, etc. on the ground make groundfighting a bad idea even if you're good at it?

Not to defend grappling per say, but the other day as I walked from one location to the next :walk: , I could not help but notice the distinct lack of broken glass, needles, and other harmful objects people seem to be sooo concerned about. I did see gum stuck to the sidewalk and lots of paper of various sizes lying about and even dangerous blades of soft grass everywhere!!! :new_Eyecr

This worst-case scenario of "broken beer bottles and hypodermic needles" littered about as you're being assaulted makes one believe that these people have spent too much time hanging around urine-soaked alleyways and smelly dumpsters. My advice folks, stop hanging around those areas and when you are attacked, you won't have to worry about needles and broken pieces of glass. :happy4:

Another helpful hint from the Illustrious Kungfoolss

**Cato** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 3:38pm

Originally Posted by Xango

Shuai-Jiao and Sanshou

These must be included because of the sheer number of permitted takedowns and throws. Each lacks in groundwork completely. Sanshou is particularly well adapted for using grappling against striking techniques, and has several kick-counter throws which every well-rounded fighter should be acquainted with. Shuai-Jiao is mostly taught as stand-up wrestling, although there are schools of 'combat' Shuai-Jiao where striking is incorporated. Groundwork does not exist in this world; seek for it elsewhere.

I posted on this yesterday but it seems to be lost.

I don´t agree on the gruondwork part.
The Shua Chiao that I have been in contact with in sweden (Stockholms Wushu Akademi) does include groundwork. When they compete they can win by points (by throwing) or tap out (when doing groundwork).

**Xango** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 5:41pm

While interesting, that is exceptional. The rules of Shuai-Jiao are very old, and well-known in Asia; they DO NOT allow for any groundwork whatsoever.

**Cato** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:07pm

Too bad that they don´t have their whole site in english, because they describe their rules there.

http://www.swewushufed.se/

**Xango** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:12pm

Although this talks about Mongolian wrestling, the rules are typical for Chinese Shuai Jiao also:

Mongolian Wrestling

**Cato** · Posted On: 2/15/2005 6:31pm

maybe they have adapted groundfighting recently, I don´t know, I don´t train there. =)

**tokyo ranger** · Posted On: 3/26/2005 4:28pm

I get the impression that this isn't really a FAQ, but more of an elaborate fantasy designed to explain why grappling is The Ultimate Unstoppable Art (makes sense, since BJJ is quite fashionable at the moment) and how sportsfighting is actually the same as street fighting (based on what I've read here, most people don't even seem to believe that you can actually get attacked outside the dojo) and how striking is ultimately useless. The "FAQ" also seems to operate on the proposition that the situation (whatever it is) will be grappler vs. striker. For some reason.