Because as a group we're addicted to repeated blunt trauma to the head?
Originally Posted by Jekyll
WTF is that old guy doing in the three geese videos? Why is Serious Harm posting vids of an old guy slapping and scratching himself? What in hell is that proving anyway?
Jesus, at least post someone doing a demonstration of something. I can slap myself right now, can I have chi too? Can they teach me to withold orgasm so I can save towels?
Well, that's the thing about IMA, qigong, or meditative arts. THere's alot more going on than is apparent to the casual observer. But that guy's body mechanics, movement, and postures are truly good.
My point SH, is not that his scratching and slapping is not truly beautiful and sublime, I have seen chi kung and taoist yoga many times, and have done many of the same things he is doing in those videos.
Originally Posted by serious harm
Has he or anyone he knows ever been in a fight on camera? Do they spar? Is there any action you can provide us a clip of where two of these qi people are fighting each other, or sparring, wrassling, etc.? At least slapping each other?
Come one man, you seem to be the webs greatest resource on tai chi links, in all of this isn't there a fight clip somewhere?
Oh, that guy is not practicing a fighting art.
Here is a competitive push hands match. On the site I found it off, people were saying it's not that great or whatever, I didn't think it was all that bad or anything.
Here is a post I found off AtlantisRising forum which explains energy vibration and ki more mathematically and in science tems. And much better than I could I think. Well, it's one guy's post, I don't understand everything about energy but it could have to do with ki.
"If the background radiation from the big bang is at an almost equal distance (20 billion light years) in all directions from the earth does that mean we are at near the center of the known universe? No, it simply means that the part of the universe we see now is a "sphere" with us at the center. We have not yet seen far enough to tell whether we are far or near to the center of the universe. So we don’t know what the black holes orbit around yet. It would be interesting to plot all the known black holes and centers of galaxies and figure out the possible location of what they orbit and then concentrate on that area, to discover what is there.
Check out this link discussing, if anything can escape a black hole, and what energy they observed does so far.
Now see if this makes any sense to you. One of the great illusions of the senses is that matter attracts and repels matter. It is also believed that oppositely charged electrical particles attract each other and like charges repel. There is much evidence of the senses to justify such a conclusion, but it is of the same illusive nature as the evidence that deceives the senses into thinking that railroad tracks seem to meet upon the horizon.
We see the tides rise toward the moon on one side of the earth and away from it on the other. We conclude that the moon attracts the earth and thus pulls the ocean toward it. But that does not account for the fact that the tides rise on the opposite side of the earth away from the moon. What is actually happening is that all conditioned matter is constantly seeking to balance its condition with all other matter.
The moon and earth center their own respective wave fields surrounded by space. All wave fields are bounded by planes of zero curvature, and a zero pressure condition which, insulate each field in the universe from every other field. The very shapes of wave fields of earth and moon are forever changing to adjust their balance as the moon revolves around the earth. As a result, the mutual equators of both fields must lengthen, disc like, on a plane which intersects the center of gravity of each body.
Naturally the tides rise toward, and away, from the moon. If the earth was all liquid instead of solid, it, likewise, would lengthen appreciably at its equators, disc-like, and flatten at its poles to meet the interchange of balance between the fields of the moon and Sun, as Jupiter and the outer planets are so noticeably doing. It would also throw off rings as Saturn and all the stars of heaven are doing, and for the same reason.
We see the positive pole of a compass needle pointing toward the negative pole of a magnet and the negative pole of the magnet pointing toward the positive pole. This evidence is one of the bases of the conclusion. That is what our eyes see. What actually is happening is that they are voiding each other’s unbalanced condition to seek balance through each other.
Opposite poles get as far away from each other as they can, until their opposition is voided by balance in their fulcrum and they cease to be.
When the positive pole of a magnet is brought into contact with the negative pole of another magnet, that effect which we think of as attraction is one of voidance. It is a cessation of opposition or power to manifest anything. Polarity utterly ceases at that point and each opposite extends to each opposite end, each getting away from the other and through the other, spirally, as far as it can.
If opposite poles attracted each other, then they would be together in the middle of a magnet instead of its ends.
Matter neither attracts nor repels other matter, Unbalanced conditions in matter seek balanced ones, All matter is motion constantly seeking rest.
This it can find only by balancing its condition with matter similarly conditioned by voiding the tensions of its sexed condition. That alone is the cause of motion and the reason for its continuance or discontinuance.
This is a Universe of One Thing. All matter which is electrically separated from that oneness and seeks it. This is a fundamental principle and underlying desire of all Creation. It is as true of humans and their emotions as it is of matter.
Electricity is a division of the One Light into two extensions of that Light projected through each other, each becoming the other alternately. The One Light is a pressureless and sexless condition. The two light extensions from the One Light are opposed pressure and opposed sexed conditions.
Thus there are but two conditions of matter – either expanding from stillness or contracting towards stillness. Each condition arises from the other. The instant it becomes its own opposite it gets as far away from that opposite as is necessary to find balance in a like condition. It seeks its like condition to find rest in a balanced condition, and not because the matter of it is attracted by the matter it seeks. A log floating down stream is seeking a balanced condition and is not being attracted by the dam or by other logs.
These opposites represent the compression-extension father-mother principle, which integrates light into solids and disintegrates it into vapors and gases.
All moving masses are unbalanced. To say that these opposites attract each other is like saying that north attracts south or that inward attracts outward or that wetness attracts dryness, or that darkness attracts incandescence.
Water, for example, is a compressed condition. When water vaporizes it expands into its own opposite condition. It then seeks rest in clouds of like condition. When it thus finds rest in a balanced condition, its motion ceases and its opposition also ceases.
Another effect of motion, which has misled the senses into believing that opposites attract, is that hot air is said to rise toward cold and cold air to descend toward heat. That is not what is happening, for like seeks like. Cooling air is expanding and rising toward cold, and heating air is contracting and falling toward heat.
Negative oxygen bubbles gather at the positive poles of a charging electric battery, and positive hydrogen bubbles gather at the negative poles. What is actually happening is that the positive pole is taking the positive condition out of the water, leaving the negative oxygen as residue. The negative pole is, likewise, taking the negative condition out of the water, leaving the positive hydrogen as residue. Again like seeks like.
The demonstration of the principle of like conditions seeking like is in the elements of matter. If opposites attracted opposites according to present concepts, it would be impossible to gather together one ounce of the same elements. All elements seek their kind. In any chemical decomposition of compounded mixtures, each element seeks and finds similarly conditioned elements.
Nature’s gyroscopic principle does this automatically. Every element has its own gyroscopic relation to the axis and amplitude of its wave. Each seeks that relation of pressure and moves until it finds itself in the orbit of its own gyroscopic plane of pressure.
So my original statement should be modified to be: Could it actually involve outflowing love and illusionary attraction (which is actually like seeking like).
What are the satelites or moons in that example? Remember everything plays two roles both ‘guider’ to something (something that orbits around it) and ‘guided’ by something (what it orbits around). So what are the moons and where do they come from and where are they going? All moons came from the planets they orbit, first they are gases and vapors around the planet, then they become rings around the planet, then they become moons around the planet, then they become comets. And eventually part of a star. They are always seeking rest or balance in like kind conditions, getting as far away as they can to achieve this balance or rest. All conditions are always changing, some faster then others. Radioactivity is a quick return to the state of rest, which underlies the spiritual or invisible universe. And that is what a lightning flash is, as contrasted to flame which is a slower return, or to decay which is a still slower return.
The inbreathing of spheres generates low potential into high. The generative process of Nature is gravitation. The outbreathing of spheres radiates high potential into low. The degenerative process of Nature is radiation.
Multiplication and division of expressed energy into the high and low potential of gravitation and radiation is made possible by the plan of Nature which causes all actions of Nature to extend radially from omnipresent points of magnetic Light.
Gravitation pulls spirally inward from within to wind light waves into solids to center space. Radiation thrusts spirally outward to unwind dense solids into space to surround solids. Each are equal reactions of the other. Each becomes the other sequentially.
Gravitation is the positive electric principle which exerts its pressures centripetally toward the maximum incandescent points of compression in every wave-field. It is the father principle of Nature, the integrating principle of 'uphill flow of energy" which forever balances its "downhill flow."
Radiation is the negative electric principle which exerts its pressures centrifugally toward its wave-field boundary planes of magnetic Light. It is the mother principle of Nature, the disintegrating principle of "downhill flow of energy" which forever balances its "uphill flow."
Gravity gives a material form to bodies to manifest the idea of bodies. Radiactivity gives spiritual formlessness to the heavens for re-giving to earths as formed bodies.
There is no "center of gravity" in Nature. The centering Light of every mass is still magnetic Light. Likewise the still axis of every vortex is still magnetic Light. Every action in Nature demonstrates this principle.
The expanded condition of space is millions of times greater in volume than the compressed condition of its centering body. This explains the seeming mystery of gravitation and radiation, which causes solid objects to fall toward the earth and gases to rise toward space.
Want to see the complete post about this and related discussion, then click on this link.
Also the link given in one of my previous posts is a dead link, the forum switched servers recently, so below is the new good link
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A page that explains the Law of God mathematically. The principle of God is true-
Perhaps the Law of God can be considered the evoltutionary principle of the universe. Manifest on the surface as a Falun PAttern
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