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  1. willy is offline

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    11/01/2004 2:28am


     

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    how long to this comp?

    if it is a short time you need to focus on one or two throws. preferably two throws that can be used as a combination. then drill dril drill drill drill. most first techniques will fail make sure you get comfortable with moving in to the second technique the second the first one fails.
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  2. Deadpan Scientist is offline

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     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakinonioi
    "Jump" back might be over-doing it.
    You do folkstyle wrestling?

    How about you leave the gi BJJ stuff to the BJJ black belts like JohnnyS?
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     Style: Wrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandeissansoo
    You do folkstyle wrestling?

    How about you leave the gi BJJ stuff to the BJJ black belts like JohnnyS?

    Sure, 'cause kick-ass moves like the "grab his arm and jump backwards" are why bjj is known as the final authority in takedowns.
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  4. much love is offline

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     Style: Jazzercise

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    Hey Bro,

    on the headlock throw:

    opponent throws jab, you scissors quan sau with your fuk to bong as a jab catch and your tan as a right cross jam

    turn your tan over (to palm down) and lop sau the right while turning your fuk/bong palm up to a tan sau shape and slice forward to take the head lock.

    it feels like a quick smack, smack and can be drilled solo as a double scissors quan sau

    caveats:

    1.you are a sucker for some brutal counters if you don't execute the throw quickly, it is a little harder to counter if you break their posture w/the headlock

    2. once you hit the ground in a headlock/scarf hold/kesa gatame/cross mount you better, ditch the headlock, turn belly down to north/south. it is doubtful that you will actually get north/south, further if you did, you would take knees to your face/head. the purpose of turning belly down as if you are taking North/South is to prevent your opponent from taking your back.

    I my self thing WC and JJ fuse seamlessly

    Jah Guide!
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  5. Dochter is offline

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    I read the thread title and thought this was a troll job.
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  6. Ronin is offline

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     Style: Canadian Shidokan

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    Quote Originally Posted by much love
    Hey Bro,

    on the headlock throw:

    opponent throws jab, you scissors quan sau with your fuk to bong as a jab catch and your tan as a right cross jam


    LOL, quan sau your fuk !!
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  7. Beatdown Richie is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    OMG.

    http://www.judoinfo.com

    Go learn judo.
    Seconded. Or learn to pull guard.
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
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  8. Te No Kage! is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: BJJ/Judo

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    get on judoinfo.com and practice a few simple throws...

    headlock one --> see koshi guruma
    ken and ryu one --> see tomoe nage
    hip throw --> see O goshi

    o soto gari and ippon seionage should also be looked at
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  9. Beatdown Richie is offline
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    o soto gari and ippon seionage should also be looked at
    ippon seoinage is a little problematic. In general, throws where you turn your back to your opponent are more dangerous in BJJ than in Judo, because an ippon does not mean game over, and having your back taken is not a good way to start a match. As long as you have either an underhook or a solid wizzer, you should be fine, but seoi nage (shoulder throw) and koshi guruma (the headlock-throw) are dubious.

    And for the record, the grab-the-waist-post-and-pull throw goes by the name of tani otoshi, and it work really really well for people with long legs/
    There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)
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  10. Crapfestival is offline
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     Style: Im a Lover, not a fighter

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    Dont pull full guard, pull half guard or butterfly if you feel the need to drop to your back.

    Learn the single leg, learn a takedown from the clinch... and alternate between them.

    "Watch out for throws that give up your back, such as the hip-throw, especially when you first start out learning standing grappling."

    I told JBliss if he tried to use that throw in his fight Saturday night, win or lose when he came back to his corner I was going to knock him out.
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