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  1. PeedeeShaolin is offline
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    Team Tiger Schulmann ranked #1 grappling team in the nation

    Team TSK was recently ranked #1 in the nation by RANKED on mma.tv.

    The rankings have alot ot do with the NAGA and over 100 submission grappling events. Team TSK placed 1st with 175 points over team Renzo Gracie(150 points) and American Top Team(147).

    The RANKED list can be seen at mma.tv here:

    http://www.mma.tv/RANKED/index.cfm?a...ms&Season=2004

    Congrats to team TSK.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    they also won the award for "most jewish MMA name"
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    Team TSK beats Gracies ..... please stop next you will say that Boston Red Sox will beat the Yankees in the ......oh wait.......................................
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    After reading Jekyll's threads I bring back an old sig.......

    Do you really train or just bore people on message boards and parties talking about it.
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    Thats just a marketting tool. The more you compete, the higher your rank. So if you have 200 people compete, and some schools only have 15 or 20, you are obviously going to lose.
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    Posted On:
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    Team Renzo never has 15 to 20.

    Plus you cant win advanced and expert unless you have skills.

    On top of that team TSK owns pretty much everyone in MMA on the east coast.

    The only TSK fighter to lose recently(that I'm aware of) has been Shennen Maceo in Muay Thai and thats because he fought the 7th ranked fighter in the world and it was only Shennen's 8th fight in the ring.

    On top of that the TSK fighters actually fight each other should they meet in a tournament. Most BJJ schools take the easy way out and save their fighters so they're "fresh" instead of risking a match and making them tired. Its one of the most pussified tactics I've ever come across.

    Also children are factored into the equation as well. Its not TSK's fault that most schools don't have the ability to teach a child/teen and actually give them skills. I dont think TSK has ever lost the kids division in NAGA. They train their kids better than anyone else it would appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempocos
    Team TSK beats Gracies ..... please stop next you will say that Boston Red Sox will beat the Yankees in the ......oh wait.......................................
    REDSOXOWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Last edited by Hawkeye; 10/21/2004 12:02pm at .
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    I'm not saying TSK isnt good, and I wasnt implying that Renzo is the best either. They by
    far have the most people at each tournament, and I agree they have a great kids program.

    But I still dont think they have the best grappling program. They are very good, but I think their numbers make them stand out. Team mates are put into opposite sides of the bracket, so if they are meeting in a tournament it is towards the very end anyways. So thats not such a big deal most of the time.
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    Actually I agree with you, I would say American Top Team or Renzo has the best team overall.

    If you factor in kids I say TSK because their kids fight in Boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, NAGA and even limited rules MMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempocos
    Team TSK beats Gracies ..... please stop next you will say that Boston Red Sox will beat the Yankees in the ......oh wait.......................................
    Look at the results from Reality Fighting last week. TSK 2 Team Renzo 0 (MMA Events). Granted, not straight grappling, but it does make a statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Lau
    I'm not saying TSK isnt good, and I wasnt implying that Renzo is the best either. They by
    far have the most people at each tournament, and I agree they have a great kids program.

    But I still dont think they have the best grappling program. They are very good, but I think their numbers make them stand out. Team mates are put into opposite sides of the bracket, so if they are meeting in a tournament it is towards the very end anyways. So thats not such a big deal most of the time.
    I would agree as well.

    Also keep in mind that this is not a BJJ school. It's a "karate" school which can hang pretty well with good grappling competition.
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