From the quality show which brought you the Frank Dux interview, I present to you.....

The Richard Ryan interview!

http://www.kellyworden.com/home/pastshows5.html

http://www.realestateradio.net/worde...e-1-3-2004.mp3 is the precise URL of the mp3, but there are several formats on the page.

And the Phil Elmore interview!

http://www.kellyworden.com/home/pastshows.html
http://www.mytalkradio.com/ote/ontheedge-9-11-2004.mp3 is the URL of the mp3, but there's also a wmv on the page.