Catch Wresting/Catch as Catch Can

**br79** · Posted On: 10/09/2004 12:19pm

Here is a link to some info on Catch Wrestling...
or "the Lost art of Hooking"... seems some of the
old school american wrestlers were on to some
good techniques outside of asian based grappling.

http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/catch/catch.html

**LLL** · Posted On: 10/09/2004 3:22pm

Catch wrestling actually IS related to (some) Japanese grappling, as Japanese pro wrestling was founded by Western catch dudes...

But there's bullshit artists in this style too; so don't believe everything...

**Don Gwinn** · Posted On: 10/09/2004 8:41pm

Matt Furey says there are no bullshit artists in Catchwrestling, you LIAR!

Mattie wouldn't lie to me. I bought his book.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 10/09/2004 8:47pm

The way I see it, besides a VERY few possibly legit guys, the only Catch wrestling you're going to learn in North America is going to come from guys who went to Japan and were taught by some of the Shooto or Pancrase, etc type of guys.

**Jenfucius** · Posted On: 10/10/2004 8:48am

tell the girls on sunset blvd that hooking is a lost art

**bushi51** · Posted On: 10/11/2004 1:28am

lol ^

***TaeBo_Master*** · Posted On: 10/11/2004 2:28am

Whether or not Catch Wrestling is related to Asian grappling arts or not doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is whether or not it works. Besides, any grappling is going to be related somehow, there are only so many ways to bend a limb and all. The main difference isn't so much in the techniques (outside of perhaps a few subtleties), the main difference is strategy. If it works, it works and it doesn't matter where it came from.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 10/15/2004 10:11am

Tony Ceccine(sp?) is supposedly the primary legit source for catch in the US.

I've trained at different times with 2 of his students. Catch is very cool and works the positions differently than BJJ which makes it interesting. My biggest problem with it is it can come accross a gimic style because it works best against beginners. And a lot of the techniques are stopped by good BJJ guys.

However I think it may be more of a skill difference more than any technique problem.

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 10/15/2004 10:17am

What is catch's unique positional strategy? Also, what is so unique about catch's hooking?

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 10/15/2004 10:24am

Hmm "Unique Positional Strategy" eh? Sounds a little grandiose. Basically they don't preach position before submission as much as BJJ and MMA. Their theory is they can hurt you from any position and even if they don't get a submission with the move they can use it to change positions. Lurkers, feel free to correct me if I misinterpret this but that's what I got from both the guys I trained with.