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  1. Goku is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/08/2004 3:53am


     Style: MT, Kenpo

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    new school opinion...

    unfortunately d/t lack of knowledge i trained 4yrs @ a mcdojo. looking back on it i can't believe it happened, but it did, and what do you do...life is experience and experience is life. my MA education(other than this forum, and the mcdojo) are UFC and other NHB competitions. i've posted a bit, lurked a lot and searched a lot here. actually this forum was a HUGE reason i left...so thanks in general all around, the discussions here are great!

    i've been "searching" the forum for opinions regarding the differences b/w JJJ and BJJ. i've found some feel JJJ focuses on stand-up joint locks and BJJ focuses ground. others feel JJJ is pretty much a waste of time compared to BJJ. and some feel the value of JJJ schools depends on how the school is run(ie. what it focuses on). rolling a lot gets the school good grades. however, a school that says its one thing and then trains differently is looked down upon. this summary finally brings me to my situation which is...

    i've NEVER trained ground before, i've NEVER done anything to a fully resisting opponent. this new place i started is, in name, a JJJ school. from my vast MA education(LOL) it looks to me like this school does a lot of BJJ style training. a lot of rolling and "Gracie-like" maneuvers.

    Rolling a lot=good
    calling themselves one thing and training more like another=?bad?

    problem is i don't really know what JJJ consists of and couldn't really find that info here on the forum, and when i google for it only BJJ stuff pops up. but training-wise at least it doesn't seem to be a mcdojo. i'm not really hung up on "styles" and am digging this new place. should i worry that this supposed JJJ place might not train like other JJJ places? the sensei seems open to anything and doesn't seem to LIMIT the training to ONLY JJJ. seems to me like his motto is if it works it works. ask me, i'll tell you. show me whatever and i'll give you my opinion.

    sorry 'bout the length of the post!
  2. SamHarber is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/08/2004 4:09am

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    JJJ is a mixed bag of stuff. It should cover all ranges if taught well. My old JJJ club was quite happy to find something from another style that worked better than what we currently did. A good example is that a lot of our throws were heavily influenced by taichi. Of course it helps that we had a forward thinking instructor who wasn't bound by any organisation.
    Taking responsibility for my actions since 1989
  3. PoleFighter is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/08/2004 6:10pm


     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I had my first experience with JJJ a few days ago. My new BJJ school shares a little house with a few japanese arts (iado, bujinkan, JJJ etc). This guy came to our class with grappling gloves and whatever and wants to train. He was a JJJ blackbelt (and that's pretty much always at least four years of training in sweden) and wanted to test our students skills. He got humiliated by the blue belts, moved down the ranks and didn't tap a single person.

    When you're looking for a school, think about the fact that some styles have a higher fraction of bullshido schools. MT and BJJ have very few, TKD has lots. From what I hear, JJJ has quite a bit of bullshit. When looking at a school, it's, in my humble opinion, not good enough to see if they spar. I KNOW the aformentioned JJJ-guy spars (or at least rolls), because I've observed some of their classes (the mat work was just awful), but his technique was still bad, according to the people that rolled with him. The problem is, it might be difficult judging the quality of their techniques without some general MA knowledge.

    As always, post your location and someone might be able to help you.
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  4. bushi51 is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/10/2004 12:05am

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     Style: BJJ

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    I train both JJJ and BJJ. My JJJ school is well rounded and gives a nod to tradition, but in all fairness is run in a modern fashion. The head of the system is open to new strategies, techniques and tactics. The higher BBs in the system can straight up ruin my **** on the ground. They roll as good as BJJ browns and Blacks I have experienced.

    The system focuses equally on all aspects of fighting. Standing (free-movement), Clinch (Standing-grapple) and Groung grappling. This leads to a more rounded fighter, but one that takes longer to match a specialist as found in systems like BJJ. There are good JJJ schools out there, but they ARE hard to find.
  5. Goku is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/11/2004 10:37am


     Style: MT, Kenpo

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    thanks fellas

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