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    Competitive Taiji?

    I found this clip on another forum. The people there were saying it's not too good, because it was mostly strength and wrestling. I wonder how good the internet forum guys would do in push hands competition. Actually, it's not much of a competition, more of a ownage by one guy. I thought I'd post it

    http://www.taiji.org.hk/_video/whgpushand.wmv

    So I found some competitive Aikido clips on this very forum. So which is better in competition, and which is more powerful, Taiji or Aikido? Or are they quite similar? I'm just kidding, this isn't meant to be a Taiji vs. Aikido thread, or about which style is best, but what the hell,

    http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~siba/index11.htm

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    I've seen that pushing hands clip before. I like it. That kid in the red is actually the son of a grandmaster, I believe.

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    I was expecting something a little more sophisticated than a sumo match.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire.

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    Competitive moving step push hands generally turns into a standup wrestling match. It takes a pretty high level of skill to make it anything else. It's a lot easier to use strength than well honed tai chi skill.

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    Here are some other various clips I found on the net that I find somewhat interesting. I mean hey, what are the alternatives, for IMA clips on the internet, if someone's found better, put them up. I don't think you can find truly good clips on the net, that **** ain't for free I guess.

    http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Vi...vantageWeb.mov
    http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Vi...ntsWorkWeb.mov
    http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Vi...andra03Web.mov
    http://www.chentaichi.org/hunyuan/Vi...retchHeel1.mov
    http://www.kungfu4u.com/Tai%20Chi/Ta...i%20Videos.htm
    http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/vide...hoi_xingyi.mpg
    http://www.brainsalad.com/mov/clip06.mov

    and there a short limited clips on these sites
    http://www.blacktaoist.com/intropage.html
    http://www.taijigongfu.com/gallery.html
    http://www.hsing-i.com/pics/index.html

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    A lot of that looked like wrestling to me. Especially the underhooks. Where are the wrestling regulars?

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    hmmm... the aikido clips are tomiki aikido aren't they? so how does the randori work?

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    For some reason whenever I picture two people fighting each other in Taiji, underwater and moving really slowly

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    guy in red looked like he knew what he was doing from my limited taichi perspective-.-;;

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    I'd mentioned this once before, many months ago, but everyone laughted at me, so I dropped it. But I once saw a Judo black belt sparring push hands with a senior Taiji Chen student. The sparring was very aggressive, like stand up wrestling with no throws, and fairly evenly matched.

    A couple of years ago a friend of mine tore her ACL, sparring push hands in China, and one of the other students was actually knock out during his match.

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