Yagli gures - Turkish oil wrestling

**Meex** · Posted On: 10/07/2004 2:34pm

Originally posted by LLL
Of course not, for God's sake!

How dare you claim that abominations such as homosexuals could be among the practicioners of Turkish Wrestling?

I made no such claim, sir!
I just asked a question. Which you answered. :rolleyes:

`~/

**Ronin** · Posted On: 10/07/2004 2:35pm

Originally posted by Aesopian
I'm trying not to troll my own thread.

I don't think it's working.

Yagli gures in action:

That's it, a little to the left...

**Freddy** · Posted On: 10/07/2004 3:22pm

I dont know if theres really any truth about ancient wrestlers sticking fingers up someones asshole. It sounds like someone's gay fantasy. :D

**LLL** · Posted On: 10/07/2004 3:31pm

Yeh I VERY much doubt you can rip out someone's small insestine any more than you can punch their 'fairyland nose bone in their brain'....

THough, I will NOT apply as a volunteer...

(at least for free).

**Aesopian** · Posted On: 10/07/2004 3:51pm

Here's an interesting read:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/bayside/yokoh.../ktvevent.html

I thought this was particularly interesting:

The spectators who visited the center dome in the Turkish Culture Village might have been overwhelmed by foreign events they saw for the first time. The reactions were varied, such as a person staring vacantly with his mouth wide open, a loving couple secretly joking about it, and a woman who was too shy to look straight at it.

The reason is clear.

They cannot guess why the wrestlers insert their arms in the black skin trousers (Kispet) of their opponents, and then grasp in the crotch. If you asked the wrestlers why they do it, they would answer "Because the oil slips, there is no place to catch hold, except there." Because this seems to cause confusion, I have decided to explain.

The wrestler cannot depend on friction for grasping a partner's body in this event because of the oil covering them. The frictional coefficient of the oil, warmed up at body, is near to zero. So, it is almost impossible to catch hold of the body or limbs.

So the only way to grasp is inside of the "Kispet".

There are mainly two places inside of the kispet to grasp.

1. Wrinkles of the kispet which occurs at the bottom of the thigh when stooped.
2. Wrinkles of the kispet which occurs at the back of the knee when kneeling.

The wrestlers read their opponents position changes, catch the wrinkles occurring inside of the kispet immediately, and lift or throw. Because the kispet is completely smooth, it does not hurt the skin, but the inside of the kispet cannot be grasped if wrinkles are not made. If there are no wrinkles inside of the kispet, a skilled wrestler can leverage and lift with all his strength by clenching his fist while his arm is deeply inserted in the kispet.

This technique of using the kispet may be compared to using the lapels for grasping, and leverage in judo.

**cafezinho** · Posted On: 10/11/2004 1:01am

And a kispet wrinkle is what? This thread makes me giggle.

**Billy Havoc** · Posted On: 10/11/2004 7:25am

i don't want to sound gay, but all turkish wrestlers i've seen are pretty buff... any ideas what they do for conditioning?

**AFS** · Posted On: 10/11/2004 7:31am

hmm, not sure wether it's just the wrestling in Turkey.
I fought years ago in Ankara, and after the fights the competitors kissed each other on the cheeks.

With regards to pulling the small intestine through the anus.
What are you going to do about the meters of large bowel in your way?

**slideyfoot** · Posted On: 10/20/2004 6:23am

I'm Turkish, and while no expert on kirkpinar (which is what I've always called it, rightly or wrongly), I can explain the kissing. While Turkey is as typically homophobic as any other culture bound up in machismo, men often greet eachother with a kiss (anyone who's been to the Mediterranean will be familiar with this). Kissing the hand is also very common, such as in the bayram festivals (I lived in the UK all my life, so a bit removed from Turkish culture, despite regular trips and a house there - still, from what I know, they seem to have bayram pretty frequently), when you kiss the hand of an older person (in my case, this was usually my late grandfather), touch it to your head, and they give you money. And no, its not like prostitution.

Kirkpinar site