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    Yagli gures - Turkish oil wrestling

    I know I am calling an onslaught of gay jokes upon myself with this, but I found some actual information on Turkish oil wrestling, or by its proper name, Yağlı Güreş. I know it is the zenith of the "grappling is gay" stereotype, but I thought some of you might find it interesting to read real information on it.

    Anyway, as with most everything, the info is on Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagli_gures

    Okay, and I hope someone is just fucking with Wikipedia on this part:
    Since competition without the harmony of matter and spirit would be detrimental to the development of good character, wrestlers oil one another prior to matches as a demonstration of balance and mutual respect. Equally, if a younger man should defeat an older man, he kisses the latter's hand.
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    There once was a Turkish oil wrestler who posted here, said he was coming to USA & asked for sparring partners (= this is all 100% true). He said he could also wrestle witout the oil just fine...

    I'm sure someone would have challenged him, if it wasn't for his explanation of one of the distraction techniques in the style, which involves shoving your hand down the other guy's pants, followed by you finger invading his asshole... ;). -> aka 'Turkish oil check'

    This, for some reason, was too badass for even the most serious fighters here ;)...
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    Whoa, that's hardcore, LLL.

    I'm honestly trying to appreciate it for its cultural and historical significance, since it is an ancient sport with its main tournament being the Kirkpinar Games, the world's oldest continually sanctioned sporting competition.

    But then I keep finding stuff like this:

    Moves can be highly dirty and involve battering your opponent around the head, pulling their ears and even pushing your hand into your opponents shorts and squeezing their testicles!
    http://www.pilotguides.com/destinati...g_festival.php

    To counter-balance that last link, here's one that actually has a lot of good information with the least homoerotic undertones:

    http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/eh/eha/ehaa/2001-10/02.htm
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    I'm trying not to troll my own thread.

    I don't think it's working.

    Yagli gures in action:
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    Lots of these techniques are a valid part of wrestling in other parts of the world. Western (Puritannical) influences have caused these techniques to be branded taboo. The referenced "Turkish oil check" is a killing technique whereby the finger(s) is inserted into the anus to grab the small intestine, and yank it out, killing the opponent. Many (ancient) warriors stripped before battle, and greased their bodies to avoid being sucessfully grappled. These techniques (oil check. ear/nose grab, eye gouge, etc.) were developed for that reason.

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    Theres some iinfo on Turkish wrestling over the net etc. Not a whole lot on teh various types of Persian wrestling though. I believe there are four types they practice there.
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    Originally posted by Meex
    Lots of these techniques are a valid part of wrestling in other parts of the world. Western (Puritannical) influences have caused these techniques to be branded taboo. The referenced "Turkish oil check" is a killing technique whereby the finger(s) is inserted into the anus to grab the small intestine, and yank it out, killing the opponent. Many (ancient) warriors stripped before battle, and greased their bodies to avoid being sucessfully grappled. These techniques (oil check. ear/nose grab, eye gouge, etc.) were developed for that reason.

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    How about WEARING normal CLOTHES. It wouldn't work for the other moves, and I haven't tried shoving my fingers into someone's asshole, but I think clothes might get in the way.
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    Originally posted by LLL
    How about WEARING normal CLOTHES. It wouldn't work for the other moves, and I haven't tried shoving my fingers into someone's asshole, but I think clothes might get in the way.
    I hear ya!
    On the otherhand, if you're wearing clothes and someone's tryin' ta give you an enema, would ya suspect he's ghey? D)
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    Too fucking easy...
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    Originally posted by Meex
    I hear ya!
    On the otherhand, if you're wearing clothes and someone's tryin' ta give you an enema, would ya suspect he's ghey? D)
    Of course not, for God's sake!

    How dare you claim that abominations such as homosexuals could be among the practicioners of Turkish Wrestling?
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