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  1. Wounded Ronin is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    Edit: New info in fish oil supplements here! I understand they filter PCBs and other crap out. Caveat emptor or whatever it is.
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    I took a nutrition class once and the professor told me that fish oil supplements don't seem to have any positive effect. Eating cold water fish like salmon helps you with cholesterol, but in isolation the fish oil pills themselves don't seem to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blad3
    The only problem with the "moderate running for 30-45 minutes" to loose weight/get endurance or whatever is I can only run "moderately" or even very slowly for like 5-10 minutes before my calves feel like they're going to explode (so before I'm in pain.)

    I have problem's, I know.

    You DO have problems. I weigh 360 pounds and I can run longer then you. That's seriously something you should be able to do, man...do you have knee or ACL probs or something?
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    [QUOTE=keinhaar]2 pounds fat loss is unrealistic. That's 7,000 calories per week. That's burning (or somehow creating a deficit of) 1,000 calories per day of fat EXCLUSIVELY.

    As Uncle Kein has said time and again, the more demanding the activity the more body will demphasize fat use....so exercise isn't directly a valuable contributor.

    And the greater the calorie defecit the greater the stress response, the greater the catablizing effect of the valuable muscle. It's a fine line one treads.

    Muscle-up, food modestly down. Let the body burn the fat at rest.

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    y'all are WAY oversimplifying if you want to talk about nutrition on a biochemical level, and not simplifying enough if you want to talk about it on a practical level. first, i haven't seen mentioned what exercise does for the insulin receptors, and therefore glucose use. nor, and i think this is important, how a certain amount of glucose (sugar) will actually downgrade the catabolism of muscle during stress (which heavy exercise really isn't for all intents and purposes, but i digress) while it's true that exercise, per se, is like pissing in a bucket for getting rid of fat on a calorie per calorie basis, it's *critical* for enhancing metabolism, building muscle and increasing energy use overall. and finally, no matter what the biochemistry texts may say, studies have shown, repeatedly, that you cannot lose fat weight, and keep it off, unless you exercise. i think the main benefit of counting calories burned and not consumed is as a motivator. esentially, the more you exercise, the more your homeostasis will change to reflect a state of having to chase gazelle to eat. and, of course, the less you eat the fewer gazelles you need to chase, and so the more survival oriented stay thin in a gazelle chasing environment.

    frankly, we need more gazelle, and fewer mcdonald's.

    also, the baseline metabolic expenditure of your average 70Kg man is 1600 calories per day at rest. daily protein requirements are aproximately 0.8g/kg/day, assuming no stress (i mean real stress, like illness, trauma, burns). everything else is just gravy, provided you get your essential fatty acids, fats and vitamins. the metabolic expenditure of a combat trooper, per day, is estimated to be about 4000 calories during combat. guys lose weight during combat, and it ain't muscle or organ protein they're losing (unless they ain't eatin', of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blad3
    The only problem with the "moderate running for 30-45 minutes" to loose weight/get endurance or whatever is I can only run "moderately" or even very slowly for like 5-10 minutes before my calves feel like they're going to explode (so before I'm in pain.)

    I have problem's, I know.
    I'm far from an expert, but I seemed to have the same problem. The first thing I did was a buy a good pair of running shoes. I researched it first, and while I wasn't able to find the exact shoes I wanted I found similar. Then I followed this program and by time I got through the first two weeks I had no trouble in calf and ankle department.

    http://www.runnersworld.com/article/...X3X6-4,00.html
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    why run/swim/cycle when it bears no resemblance to martial arts activities.
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    Why not give up eating healthy, getting enough sleep, and breathing too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amakuma
    why run/swim/cycle when it bears no resemblance to martial arts activities.

    Among many things, to develop stamina.

    But, I suppose you could just practice doing your 540-spin kicks all day.
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    Question for you if you wouldn't mind. A friend/student of mine has proffesed to taking a liking to Boxing and after much consideration has taken it up despite his terrible shape. At 5'4 he ways 204lbs (17YO) and has commited himself to 40 mins of cardio (treadmill) each day along with abdominal exercises aswell as Boxing practice every other day. As for his diet he drinks nothing but water/cordial glasses, no alcohol (18 is the legal age here) and eats nothing unsensible around 2/3 times a day.

    Yet, despite 4 weeks of training he hasn't lost an ounce. What I want to know is, whats wrong with him, why can't he lose weight, how he can help himself, how many calories he should be burning each day and how I, as his coach can help as I am quite perplexed.

    Thank you for your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Tepess
    Question for you if you wouldn't mind. A friend/student of mine has proffesed to taking a liking to Boxing and after much consideration has taken it up despite his terrible shape. At 5'4 he ways 204lbs (17YO) and has commited himself to 40 mins of cardio (treadmill) each day along with abdominal exercises aswell as Boxing practice every other day. As for his diet he drinks nothing but water/cordial glasses, no alcohol (18 is the legal age here) and eats nothing unsensible around 2/3 times a day.

    Yet, despite 4 weeks of training he hasn't lost an ounce. What I want to know is, whats wrong with him, why can't he lose weight, how he can help himself, how many calories he should be burning each day and how I, as his coach can help as I am quite perplexed.

    Thank you for your time.
    How about you first start him on some strength training exercises?
    I'm not a fan of too much running, to manipulate my weight I like to do weight training, and body building.

    Try. www.fitday.com or your favourite online calculator and see what his maintainence calorie intake for the day is. I do suspect his calorie intake may be too low, and he should eat more to lose weight. Also, I think I have mentioned it before on this thread, do your best to split up the calories he takes in during the day between 4-6 meals. This keeps the body's metabolism high throughout the day. :new_termi


    There have been previous posts in this thread about losing weight, as well as in the past in this forum, try using the search function and see what you can dig up.
    Thank you for your question, and I hope it turns out well for your friend.
    Let me know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    How about you first start him on some strength training exercises?
    I'm not a fan of too much running, to manipulate my weight I like to do weight training, and body building.

    Try. www.fitday.com or your favourite online calculator and see what his maintainence calorie intake for the day is. I do suspect his calorie intake may be too low, and he should eat more to lose weight. Also, I think I have mentioned it before on this thread, do your best to split up the calories he takes in during the day between 4-6 meals. This keeps the body's metabolism high throughout the day. :new_termi


    There have been previous posts in this thread about losing weight, as well as in the past in this forum, try using the search function and see what you can dig up.
    Thank you for your question, and I hope it turns out well for your friend.
    Let me know how it goes.
    Advice not from professional. :)

    Thanks for that :new_color I did have a slight suspicion that he wasn't eating enough, I'll see him tomorrow so I'll run him through what you've suggested. It was getting to the point where I was considering sending him to my friend, thankfully I shan't have to as my friend seems to specialise in "puke" training and I like the guy to much for that. :D
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