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    Hand gets numb while rolling

    I had this problem two days in a row now.
    After I gripped hard for a while with my left hand it gets numb and I can't close it any more. When this happens I have to rise it over my head and slightly cut the blood supply to the arm for a little because apparently the numbness is caused by a blood rush to the arm. Is there any way to prevent this or will this go away when my hand gets used to the extensive training? Any suggestions?
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    Mein freund, speaking from experience/NOT as a doctor, you're maxing-out your grip to the point where your tendons/ligaments are fatigued. They start swelling and this is why holding your hand above your heart relieves the pressure: less blood pressure=less pressure@wrist.

    Actually, this can get worse so be very careful ok? Ice/cold is good because you maintain blood flow but decrease the swellling. Train your grip strength with pullups, rope climbing/rope-pullups, squeezy-ball things, even try jerking off alot like Lebell ;)

    You're right handed, yes?
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    Well I am right handed, my arms are almost equally strong though. I never had this problem before and I am usually a "grip beast". (I use a grip ball almost all the time to cope with my nervous habit)
    It is not the wrist causing the problem, it is the area next to the elbow (the muscles) filling up with blood. (I just thought about it and it happens when I work on chokes from the back mount or other stuff where the back flow of the blood is sort of blocked for a while, this might be the problem, I will check it, but maybe you are right too and it is both)

    And yes I am careful, I take breaks when this happens, there is no use of getting injured at the first couple of days. Train hard but smart. :icon_lol:

    I hope this gets better in a few days.

    Thanks for the tip with the cooling, I might bring some ice pack or something to the training.
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    yeah, it hurts@the elbow because that's where the extensor muscles for your hand inserts. I figured it would be your non-dominant hand because we're less coordinated there and its easier to injure in that way.

    One issue may be that from back-mount you're too isolated, meaning the rest of your body is employed controlling your opp. so your hand is "on its own" so to speak.

    Think of a barbell curl where you only use your wrist, you'll get the same sensation. Whereas a one-handed snatch recruits almost your whole body.

    Try switching the choke left to right and see if your hands help you figure out what you're doing wrong.

    Its not a bloodflow issue, that hardly changes (unless you put on a tourniquet) its the effort isolated to your extensors.

    Another thought, don't use your thumb&forefinger, grip with the last three fingers, that muscle group is far stronger even though the pinky&ring fingers are weak. There are no incidences of Carpal Tunnel injuries to the last three fingers/anterior side of the arm.
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    I'm not sure a grip ball would make you a "grip beast."

    If you're serious about grip training then you're better off levering, bending, performing exercises with a thick bar, FWs, CoC etc.

    Might want to up your water/electrolyte uptake... I'm not really sure what you are describing, it could just be muscle fatigue or cramp.

    If the problem persists then maybe a see a doc, it could be a nerve problem I guess.
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    doesn't this sound kind of like the symptoms of tendonitis? Or am I totally off-base?
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    yes, you are teh correct, tendinitis/carpal-tunnel. F4 must be careful about it.
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    hopefully not tendonosis either:

    http://www.tendinosis.org/
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    Oh dude, you want to avoid any form of tendonitis @ the wrist or elbow like the freaking plage dude. That is one annoying **** to deal with. Ice is your friend.

    4F should also look into working his hand extensors by using a bunch or rubber bands, going to 2-3 sets of 20 reps every other day



    ... followed by daily wrist stretches.

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