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  1. grond is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/02/2004 9:57pm


     Style: wingy chingy

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Another wing chun demo.....bwahahahaha!

    http://detroitwingchun.com/sifudem.htm

    This is a clip of sifu ali hamad rahim, who is a wing chun sifu in southfield, detroit. Apparently the clip is twelve years old and keep in mind sifu ali described it as a old 'crappie demo' when he posted it on kf forums.

    Be WARNED, i get a 'security intrusion defeated' message each time i watch it.

    Of course there are some really bad parts of this video:

    -the multiple attackers part. "Hmmm, lets walk into sifu one at a time with a fist extended and see how he destroys us".
    -some of the rolling hands stuff is just the sifu whupping up on his obviously less skillful opponent, while its not apparent if the opponent is really resisting that much.
    -some of the chi-sao-type exchanges are very patty-cake-ish with not alot of forward energy/moving into the other person.

    But, there are some really cool things in this vid as well, which is what i want yall to see.

    -firstly, when he stops/traps the other guys kick, then kicks out his back leg. this is a badass technique if you can pull it off.
    -the move when he blocks, hits, and kicks all at once.
    -the takedowns/leg sweeps in general. Althogh once he gets the other guy on the ground, he doesn't seem to know what to do with him.
    -his use of stepping forward to disrupt the other guy's stance and get him off balance.
    -the soundtrack. :)
  2. Thaiboxerken is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/02/2004 10:04pm

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     Style: Kru-MuayThai,GJJ-Blue

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The guy leans way back when he does any trapping. This is a common mistake upon wing chun and JKD'ers. Leaning back only serves to open the head up to get punched.

    Oh well, he does look like he has skill, but not more than an intermediate practitioner.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire.
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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 12:12am


     Style: Boxing, Solar Ray Attack

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    yeah the guy in lt blue/grey just hangs back like he doesnt want any of that ****............too many weak situations

    however his one on ones looked interesting enough. I just dont give any credit for weak ass multiple attcker situations.........
    http://woodwardswhiskey.wordpress.com/

    He was punching him like the collective karmic debt he'd accrued was coming to collections, mostly on his face.
  4. tai-gip is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 4:30am


     Style: Mung Fu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I would suggest he has either Karate of Kenpo background
    his stances are to long, he larps incorrectly, he's khan sao dosnt go gorward (half his techniques dont), wing chun back fist? whats with the leaning side to side crap... wing chun dosnt have a wridge arm strike... he bounces on his feet in the multiple attacker scenario... where the hell is the simultanious block and strike,,, the lethal bill gee ... tsk tsk

    not the art just him
  5. MUT is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 5:22am

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     Style: MuayThai,Igo Ryu Jiujitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Compared to alot of the **** we see....this isn't that bad:p


    Still **** but.
  6. wingchunnewbie is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 6:26am


     Style: Wing Chun

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    I thought it was pretty good. I think the apparent 'weakness' of some of it is probably down to it being a demo. In demo's the participants are trying to avoid hurting each other, hence the apparent leaning back and lack of commitment. As far as WC not having 'backfist'... Well, it isn't in any of the forms AFAIK, but I can't see why that would mean you aren't allowed to do it. A backfist through a gap fits so nicely into a lot of the 'close-up' situations you find in WC sparring and Chi Sao.

    I'm not sure what Tai Gip means by 'wridgehand'. Explain more..
  7. philby909090 is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 6:29am


     Style: BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "I'm not sure what Tai Gip means"

    Join the club :) (just joking... well not really)

    Most of the stuff was alright for a demo but the multiple attacker scenario was really pathetic.
  8. Zeddy is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 6:37am

    Join us... or die
     Style: CM Boxing/BJJ/RBSD

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    Ridgehand... technique using striking surface of hand between wrist and thumb area.
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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 7:03am

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     Style: Alliance BJJ (Blue)

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    ok, zeddy, since you are versed in tai-gipian. help me here:
    his stances are to long, he larps incorrectly
    does WC also have live action role-play?
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    Posted On:
    10/03/2004 9:20am


     Style: MT/BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I wish I liked Wing Chun because its everywhere now but even the half decent demos I have seen still look weak to me.
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