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  1. supercrap is offline
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    Need help...

    Can someone give me either the name or even better, a picture of this grappling technique.

    When you are in someone's guard, with their legs behind you. You take a large step with your left leg, over their body to the other side, so that you end up facing away from them, and their body turns and they end up on their stomach, facing away from you. You end up with their feet / shins under your armpits and can then achilles lock to submission.

    Kinda reminds of an old school WWF style manouvre.

    Any takers?
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     Style: Total Martial Training

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    Thanks Brad.
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    Much easier said than done.
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    However, I, an utter BJJ n00b, pulled it off in training last night.

    Is it a BJJ technique as such? I mean, would they look at me funny if I did it in competition?
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    Far as I know, BJJ doesn't do much in the way of leg locks. Now, I'm sure some BJJ guys use it, but where I see it most often is in Sambo and Catch Wrestling books and vids.
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    Not a high percentage move. But work on that same hip movement. You'll be able later when you become better at disabling upper body control points to make it into a guard pass.
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    Brad, what you said sounded good, and if I knew more than I do about BJJ, I'm sure it would come in useful. I will store it away until I know what it means.

    However, I realise I can use it to probably flip the person and get their back. At the very least, as a way to escape the guard.

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    The problem with that move is that you have to be able to release the person's grip on you first, then be able to flip them over by stepping your leg over. It might work on someone who has a closed guard, but most advanced guys primarily use open guard so you're unlikely to get to that position. It's really a low percentage move because not many people are going to just let you stand up, not control your arms and not try to break your balance which would stop you bringing your leg over.

    I would suggest learning how to open and pass their guard from standing and spend time trying to work that rather than wasting time on a low percentage move that's really only going to work on beginners. Trust me on this: it's a dead-end move that you could practice and work for a few months before realising yourself that it won't work often and was a waste of time. Spend your time doing high-percentage techniques.
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    Heh okay... Advice taken.

    I was probably more surprised than the other guy that I actually did it...
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