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Thread: whaddya bench?
4/17/2007 11:33pm, #261Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
4/18/2007 12:39am, #262
So we need new powerlifting thread, you need video or post is deleted. Might be good to give credibility to posters in here.
4/18/2007 12:49am, #263
I'll show you! I'll use helium balloon weights!
I'm pretty sure credibility can be found by people knowing what the **** they're talking about, regardless of numbers in all honesty. I know kids that can bench a shitload (poorly) and don't know squat about lifting, and kids that are still growing but know a ton of stuff."Emevas,
You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
4/18/2007 1:52am, #264Originally Posted by kwoww
An added benefit is that with dumbells you have to exert more control and focus since they aren't fixed to each other in a plane, like the bar is. In other words, with the bar you mainly have to worry about it moving forwards or backwards (assuming you can lift it), with dumbells they can move in any direction.
Now, with a chest press machine the weight can't wiggle or move at all, so you don't have to work to stabilize it. People are pretty down on nautilus type machines these days for this reason. When you can max out on the limited weight stack on the machine, you'll still be nowhere near lifting that amount on with a bar.
I use a bar, mainly because I can't stand the mount and dismount with heavy dumbells.
4/18/2007 11:56am, #265
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That's why I only do incline dumbells. I used to sit back with 110's on flat bench and listen to my back pop...until common sense eventually reared it's ugly head. With inclines, you can kick up with your knee.
It is possible to use heavy dumbells on flat bench either with a worthwhile spotter or the little handles that fit on a barbell - put the dumbell on the handle, lay down, then pick them off the rack. Since neither of those two options work for me, I just do inclines.
4/18/2007 1:16pm, #266Originally Posted by Quikfeet509
4/21/2007 12:12pm, #267
What are the other relative benefits/losses to only doing benching with dumbbells? It is all I ever use because I often work out alone. I know I must be missing something by not benching with a bar..
I know a bit about pumping iron, but not much. I know this much though, I don't like machines (except for cables)." If one wants to have a friend one must also want to wage war for him: and to wage war one must be capable of being an enemy." - Fr. Nietzsche 'On The Friend' Thus Spake Zarathustra
4/21/2007 1:14pm, #268Originally Posted by OZZ
Also, I can't remember the source right now, so it will have to remain apocryphal but I remember reading that using the dumbbells puts less stress on your shoulders.
Some people are starting to de-emphasize bench pressing as the be-all end-all that it is for so many. I love it, I think it's important, but in American culture young guys especially can get obsessed with it. Pavel talks about how you'll notice the body of the athlete in classical art doesn't have humongous pecs, and you can see this trend down through Michelangelo's David. This is a ancient greek statue of a wrestler: http://www.wrestlingsbest.com/gifs/xgreekolympia2.jpg
This is strongman Thomas Inch, famous for his 172 pound, four inch thick handle dumbbells. At age 68 he could deadlift 540 pounds (he also invented barbell + plates system) http://www.bigsteel.iwarp.com/Galler...Inch-Young.JPG
Not the biggest pecs.
This is Edward Aston: http://www.bigsteel.iwarp.com/Gallery/EdwardAston.JPG
So, like with everything else, train for what your specific goal is, and don't get obsessed or sucked into the mindset of some of the loosers out there you'll run into in a gym. Every day in the gym I see these guys with bloated pecs, biceps and delts and legs that would make an anorexic marathon runner look like Ronnie Coleman.:sad3: