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  1. Blitzkrieg is offline

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    Larger fighters and weight advantage

    Hey.

    I dont consider myself to be too large a fighter, I am 5'6" and I weight about 175-180 lbs.
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    A not “larger fighter” perspective:

    It really depends on what they mean by "well he has the weight advantage". If you’re in a sport like wrestling for example the difference of 20 pounds can be a huge advantage. If you’re in judo or bjj it might not be so much of a difference but then what skill level are we talking about? I’m 5’-6” and only 140 lbs but when I was in shape and heavy into training I could submit people who outweighed me by more than 180 lbs. The difference was that they were not as skilled, quick or determined as I was. When they began to increase in skill level it became increasingly difficult to catch people as they could use their “weight advantage” to stop certain techniques. Some people are better at using their weight advantage only when they need too and using good technique the rest of the time and others rely only on their weight. If I were your size I would just concentrate on learning proper technique, as you will have plenty of opportunity to roll with people larger than yourself. Show them their wrong!

    Ironically, what pisses me off is the “that big guy will destroy the little guy over there due to his weight advantage” crap that I hear. You just can’t win.
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    175-180 lbs. is pretty big, man. ESPECIALLY at your height.
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    the problem with fighting/sparring/rolling with bigger people is that they can usually out-muscle you.

    Totally basic example:
    lets say the bigger guy has side mounted you and goes for a kimura, well with someone of the same/less size you can hold the arm in and defend, but a bigger guy can rip your arm loose slam it down and torque the ever living **** out of it. you can't roll because you have to lift his fat ass up along with your own body weight.
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    You call 20 lbs a "weight advantage" ??
    What do you call 50 ? 80? or even 100 lbs then ??
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    It's a rare day that I spar with someone without a "weight advantage". Most of the guys I go with have at least 20 pounds on me, if not 50 to 100. And I enjoy it, since I've never seen weight to be that huge of an issue, for me at least. Only lately have I been set with more people in my weight division as we prepare for an upcoming tournament, and thanks to going with heavier guys, I don't have much trouble with people my own weight.
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    That brings up an interesting point:
    Is size a factor BECAUSE you are NOT used to dealing with it ?
    In my case the VAST majority that i have faced in and out of the "ring", have been taller than my 5'-6" and heavier than my 170lbs ( MAX).
    So size has never been an issue from the very beginning.
    I learnt to deal with it early on.

    But what about those who haven't ? or those that are usually the "big guys" untill the meet someone bigger ?

    I think the "size factor" hits them harder.

    Thoughts?
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    If you consider 20 pounds distributed all over the body, its not really that big of an advantage.
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    im 5'8ish and way about 135 (im very light) but for exsample i tapped out someone who was 6'3 and probably pretty heavy (kinda fat) just yesterday- my biggest exsample of why none of this matters is this- the other night my brother was getting tossed around by a really muscle bound guy at bjj- later that night- he and rickson were talking and rickson said that he needed to be more like helio- helio wasnt strong but with his great technique it didnt matter- so my point is that technique in grappling is what beats all in the end
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