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  1. Roidie McDouchebag is offline
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    You realize this thread is going to consist of 90% gay jokes.
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    I'm going to assume that you meant that you mounted your opponent when you say you "wound up mounted". Anyway, leglocks. Lots and lots of leglocks. Kneebar, toe hold, calf slicer, etc.
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    Alos I guess you could do reverse Kesa from there. It's a really annoying pin that you can hold forever.
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    Posted On:
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    ankle lock, i think its called a toe hold, is normally fast and easy from there.
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    Posted On:
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    You can lock a toe hold in quick while facing his feet but you're going to have to control his leg first. A kneebar is the most common attack from that position but again you have to control his leg first.

    Facing your opponents feet in a straight sub wrestling match the main thing your going to want to avoid is the bottom person grabbing you around your wasit and holding you in that position. It makes attempting a leg lock dangerous because if he stays tight to you he almost has your back and you have very little movement availible to you.

    To attempt a kneebar you really only have to reposition one leg. Your other leg will be fine. Practice with a partner if you can and drill throwing one leg inbetween his and attacking the leg. The most important thing to do would be to squeeze your legs immediately and wrap his ankle tight with your arms. Thats going to stop him from moving his leg around, forcing you to abandon one leg submission for another.

    Once you have control you can attempt a variety of leg lock, like a kneebar, toe hold or even shift your body until you're in position for an ankle lock.

    You can also go for an armbar from the backward mount. I've pulled that off a bunch of times and its not as hard as you might think as long as you drill the movement.

    The first thing you can do is turn your body slightly so you have a view of his upper body. You want to grip some form of cloth by his waist to stabilize your position and make it much harder for him to knock you off. Plus you like sitting on top of him, be honest.

    The next thing you want to do is reach back with one hand and put pressure or grab, preferably by his throat or under his armpit. This is going to make him react to your pressure in a semi-half assed manner and try and remove that hand.

    When he does its pretty simple to take one leg and throw is WAY over, like your going for side control and want that knee near his head.

    Only instead of placing the knee near his head you throw your leg PAST his head and squeeze your knees in order to attack the arm.

    Armbars work from almost any position if you train them enough.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!
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    Lose your manners right in his face...he'll like that.
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    Originally posted by deus ex machina
    I'm going to assume that you meant that you mounted your opponent when you say you "wound up mounted". Anyway, leglocks. Lots and lots of leglocks. Kneebar, toe hold, calf slicer, etc.
    You speak the correct my young Jedi but you forgot the reverse triangle choke. Go sit in the corner and contemplate you belly button while wacking off with a cheese grater.
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    Originally posted by PeedeeShaolin
    You can lock a toe hold in quick while facing his feet but you're going to have to control his leg first. A kneebar is the most common attack from that position but again you have to control his leg first.

    Facing your opponents feet in a straight sub wrestling match the main thing your going to want to avoid is the bottom person grabbing you around your wasit and holding you in that position. It makes attempting a leg lock dangerous because if he stays tight to you he almost has your back and you have very little movement availible to you.

    To attempt a kneebar you really only have to reposition one leg. Your other leg will be fine. Practice with a partner if you can and drill throwing one leg inbetween his and attacking the leg. The most important thing to do would be to squeeze your legs immediately and wrap his ankle tight with your arms. Thats going to stop him from moving his leg around, forcing you to abandon one leg submission for another.

    Once you have control you can attempt a variety of leg lock, like a kneebar, toe hold or even shift your body until you're in position for an ankle lock.

    You can also go for an armbar from the backward mount. I've pulled that off a bunch of times and its not as hard as you might think as long as you drill the movement.

    The first thing you can do is turn your body slightly so you have a view of his upper body. You want to grip some form of cloth by his waist to stabilize your position and make it much harder for him to knock you off. Plus you like sitting on top of him, be honest.

    The next thing you want to do is reach back with one hand and put pressure or grab, preferably by his throat or under his armpit. This is going to make him react to your pressure in a semi-half assed manner and try and remove that hand.

    When he does its pretty simple to take one leg and throw is WAY over, like your going for side control and want that knee near his head.

    Only instead of placing the knee near his head you throw your leg PAST his head and squeeze your knees in order to attack the arm.

    Armbars work from almost any position if you train them enough.
    Wisdom Peedee has but much he has to master. What happened to the fake the Kimura or Key lock Omopolata transition? Yessssssss, now you see it. Go practice.
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  9. PeedeeShaolin is offline
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    Posted On:
    9/22/2004 1:56pm

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    I take the scenic view :D
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    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!
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    Posted On:
    9/22/2004 1:57pm

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    I take the scenic route :D
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!
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