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  1. Kungfoolss is offline

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    More area women carrying guns

    Many say self-defense classes not enough

    Ben Lemoine
    WBRZ Reporter

    Being kidnapped is something women never want to consider. But for some time in the Baton Rouge area, learning to shoot and carry a gun has become their only solace. For the second time since the summer, the number of women buying handguns is skyrocketing. Many say they made up their minds when Mari Ann Fowler was abducted. "I personally know Ms. Fowler," says Jodi Rodriguez, who is learning to shoot for the first time. "It's hit home. It's not just something you see on TV or the movies ... it's personal, and we're scared."

    They are so scared that they are getting conceal-carry weapons permits and keeping loaded guns in their purses and jackets. "I've been carrying the tear gas spray, and I'm not sure that would work if the time ever came to protect myself," says Rodriguez.

    At the Chi Institute for Martial Arts on Nicholson Drive, protection is the number one goal. But Master Randal Chontas says guns are not the answer. He fears a surge in women carrying handguns will only lead to trouble. "Getting these permits almost instantaneously ... you're going to have a lot of problems out there," says Chontas. "You're going to have a lot of injuries. You're going to have a lot of kids accidentally getting shot by getting in their mothers' purses and taking these guns." Instead, Chontas urges women to learn self-defense without a weapon. He says more are listening. Nearly 50 percent of his students are female.

    "I'd rather use my instincts and my own body -- what I have with me at the time," says Rachel Guice, a student who says she is petrified to walk alone at night in Baton Rouge. "I can't be sure that I'll always have my own gun on me or in my purse when I'm attacked." In the end it comes down to personal choice. For those who have known the victims, they say the choice is clear. When asked if she could kill someone attacking her, Rodriguez says, "definitely."


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  2. Sharp Phil is offline

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    Sadly, this is one instance where I'll actually have to agree with 'fool.' A significant percentage of the martial arts community is stupidly anti-gun (as is a significant percentage of the community at large).
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    The way I see it, guns can be forgotten at home or taken away from you, martial arts knowledge and experience can't.

    Tell me if I'm wrong here?

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  4. I Give BJJs is offline

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    Theres nothing wrong with knowing MA and having a gun. They're not mutually exclusive.
    Taking responsibility for my actions since 1989
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    well, I d like to respond to that in two ways. Fistly, in a high pitched voice, that you cannot hear because you are reading this, and secondly, by saying "Under England Junta - Mole men. Ha! Queen Victoria must end all peanuts. Flump."

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    I must join you too, I believe learning to use a gun (or another weapon) would allow one to increase his S.D. capabilities much faster then any M.A.

    So you can forget the gun, but you can also be sick/very tired etc. at which cases your physical skills are not at their best.

    Add to that the fact that woman are normally smaller and weaker - hence they will have to get to an higher level of M.A. to get the same S.D. capacity. It takes a very long time and lots of dedication to get to such a level and maintain it. Many M.A. students quit long before they get there after all.


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  9. Gezere is offline
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    Favorite MA vs gun experience that happened a couple years ago:

    I was reading a MA magazine in my office. (Your tax dollars at work) A CPT comes in and sees what I am reading and comments, "You know my .45 beats everything you could learn in that book." (For some reason he missed the HANDGUN mag that was on the desk) I didn't even look at him and asked, "Sir, where is your gun now?" He said, "In my car I hitting the indoor range later." I replied, "Then you realize if you piss me off I'd break you neck before you even get through that door." He stopped, thought, and said, "Good point."

    So what is the moral of this story? That you shouldn't rely on something you may not have with you all the time? NO.

    The moral is:

    DON'T PISS ME OFF!!!!!<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

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    "I love you Asia" - I Give BJJs Posted - December 25 2002 : 10:40:09

    Edited by - Asia on January 15 2003 08:38:16
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    Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invincible Asia) Dark Emperor of Baji!!!

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    Hmmmm... I wonder if Asia knew about the .380 in his ankle holster?
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