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  1. Gypsy Jazz is offline
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    San Shou History

    I stumbled upon this show earlier today called "Martial Artist: Kung Fu Fighters" and watched a good deal of it. It had a whole bunch of Wushu, Shaolin history and eventually it moved into San Shou. The show claimed that San Shou was an "Ancient" way of training of the Shaloin monks. It showed a few San Shou matches between the monks. All very entertaining stuff, but I still doubted that San Shou had always been practiced. I finished watching the show, which ended with a fight between Cung Le and some poor fellow who got thrown around like a rag doll, then started some research on San Shou.

    http://www.sanshou.com/
    http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/kingofsanda/whatis.html

    Both of those sites have historys of San Shou, but neither seem to agree that it has always been a practice of the temple. I can take guesses about when it became what it is today, or when it started being practiced, but have nothing conclusive yet.

    Can anyone offer a comprehensive history or just some information that might shine some light on the situation?
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    You could at first try the search function.

    San shou basically means free fighting. It has been done beofre but only till more recently it has become popular. The original intent of san shou matches was to throw your opponent off the platform.
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    experimentation began in the late 70's and early 80's, rule set was quickly standardized. what else is there to know?
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    You could argue Sanshou was practiced in the temples if you stick with the strick definition of the word: free fighting.

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    I've been wondering if the term San Shou is like MMA, and is more of a system of rules than it is its own style. In China, do people train in San Shou, or do they train in a particular variant of Wushu, and then compete using San Shou rules?
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    most chinese train in fuk yu
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    Isn't that a Scottish art, with a strong emphasis on headbutting?
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     Style: San shou(tai chi) +judo

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    What distinguises san shou from other free fighting is the use of the lai tai <sp>? the big raised platform. There are stories about Yang whatever his firstname was (the founder of yang style tai chi) smacking people of the platform to amuse the emperor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickx
    It must suck for legit practitioners of tai chi like Cullion to see their art get all watered down into exercise for seniors.
    Those who esteme qi have no strength. ~ Exposition of Insights into the Thirteen Postures Attrib: Wu Yuxiang founder of Wu style tai chi.
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     Style: baguazhang/shaui jiao

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    my shuai jiao instructor says that san shou is the second coming of san da (3 hits?). San da was rejected by the west because it was from Communist China.
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     Style: Does exercise count?

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    I was under the impression San Shou and Sanda/San Da were interchangeable terms. I could be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure they are one and the same.
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