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    Please take the time to check out this guy's profile. All but one of his black belts are "honorary."

    He also claims to be a man of peace. I've seen his approach to this philosophy firsthand. He'd talk a lot of crap to or about other martial artists. They'd challenge him & he'd say that he doesn't fight because he's a man of peace.

    http://www.mararts.org/Biography/lay/lay.htm

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    What exactly is an "honorary" black belt...
    Checked out the site, sounds pretty...different

    <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Sam

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    An "honorary" black belt is just given to you whether you have experience in that art or not. Usually, martial arts instructors give one of these to someone as a kind gesture. Mr. Lay obviously let them go to his head. His only legit black belt is the 4th Dan in TKD. You'll notice his note of thanks to his "instructor" Jesse Guerra. Jesse was my father in-law. The only instruction he gave Brian was telling him when he was performing a hapkido technique incorrectly. That's it, no formal instruction whatsoever. Jesse was also the one that gave Brian the honorary black belt in hapkido.

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    Hahaha, great find!

    Submit the link in the Features->McLinks->McDojos section so we can keep an eye on this guy.

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    looks like he has a Judo Black Belt...That would probably be better than all the other qualifcations put together, false or not..
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.

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    Arnold Schwartzenigger has an honourary black belt in TKD, they gave it to him because he hosts that big MA tourney in Columbus every year.

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    Another 10 dan?

    These guys really give TMAs a bad name.

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    not all honorary black belts are bad. Dr. Kano gave Gichin Funakoshi an honorary 5th Dan, I think he deserved it.

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    Did Arnold get fries with his TKD blackbelt??

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    Bratwurst would be more likely.

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