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  1. WhiteShark is offline
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    Kesa Gatame -> Omo Plata???

    Ok I did this twice lastnight and I'm not sure what it is. Does anyone know a name for this move?

    Description: I had Kesa Gatame with my right side against my opponents right side. I then tightened everything up and grabbed my right pant leg with my right hand while letting my opponents right arm out. Then I pushed his right arm up and into a paint-brush armlock position. But I passed my right leg over his arm and used my hips to complete the lock for the tap.

    I know it's not really Omo plata because he was face up. The lock on him worked the same way a paint-brush armlock works but I did it with my leg. Also I'm pretty sure I didn't invent it! lol

    Any ideas what I could search for to find a picture of this?
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    Something like this bro?
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    Almost, That looks like a straight armbar. I did a paint-brush lock like this:

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    Yes, I understand, sorry, don't have THAt pic, but I do knwo what you are refering to, its like doing a "key lock", is that what you guys call it?, with your legs instead of using your arms, right?
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    Yeah keylock is as good a name as any it seems to have a lot of names and I always confuse it with the Kimura even though Kimura is with the arm pointing down.

    It worked great whatever it was, and I had been frustrated by always stalling at Kesa Gatame since it is such a good pin for me.
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    YAY! I finally found a picture. This is pretty much it but I didn't need to cross my feet. And instead of the lever grip on the head I was holding my pants, so that I had a free arm.

    This guy calls it just "Keylock with legs"
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    Yeah, it works nicely if the other guy hasn't learned to keep his arms in yet. I learned it in Judo - in BJJ doesn't seem to be so popular because the scarf hold isn't considered all that great. I don't think it has a special name.
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    Yeah, I've noticed that, why doesn't BJJ like scarf hold? Just not enough options? or is it considered vulnerable to some BJJ move I don't know?
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    Per my instructor, the scarf hold is popular with judoka because it is a good pin and you can do some stuff from it, but it doesn't have as many options for submissions as some of the other side control positions, which makes it less used in BJJ.
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    I do scarf hold alot in training

    my teacher then spends 10 mins telling everyone how easy it is to get out of and snapping me in half etc as he shows us (sorry I get them done to me so I don't see what techniques he does...)

    but none of the guys I train with* have learnt how to get out of my scarf hold though and the loose arms is always a gift

    *we stand up guys mostly
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