Thread: Is swordfighting a martial art?
10/22/2004 1:32pm, #41
Gen. Douglas MacArthur was a martial artist. The rest of us just like to play patty cake and hug a lot.
10/23/2004 12:48am, #42
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Not sure if this was mentioned or not, but knights did have grappling and boxing and kicking arts, they just aren't nearly as well known as the Japanese arts. So did the Greeks and the Romans. And knights had a crapload of didfferent weapons that they trained in as well. Your standard knight was just as well trained as any standard samurai was.
11/02/2004 3:32pm, #43
Swordfighting is a martial art...
That's all escrima/arnis is.. at the root.
Blade fighting. A mix of indigenous Filipino material plus
additional portions of Indonesian, Chinese, and European
Stir and cook. Ready to serve.
And gunfighting IS a martial art. Look at FIST-FIRE for example....
it's a civilian handgun system *designed* to be mixed with MMA
Look at snipers.. that's a martial art. Bow hunters are martial artists
(and to be truthful they are MUCH better at killing people than most
of the people in the TMA/MMA/RBMA crowds).let's talk about why fat-fu shall we?
11/02/2004 3:38pm, #44
In the kung fu I'm learning many of the hand to hand techniques are also weapons strategies. That is, at some point in the motion, you could exchange the hand strike, for a blade draw and cut. I believe this is probably pretty common across many ma's. So, imo, swordfighting is synonymous with martial art, to a degree.
11/02/2004 4:26pm, #45
Coming out of a FMA background you have to wonder...
Out of all the ornate foolishness that passes for kungfu
these days... what were the "war arts" like back in the day...
I have a theory (which is not supportable AFAIK)...
Some kungfu styles (especially the good ones) stem
directly from weapons.. and the weapons were taugh FIRST
like in FMA...
The kempo system I've seen.. their oral history claims their
system is based around broadsword like hsing-i is based out
They have 5 weapons (double knives, broadsword, spear,
halberd and something else) and 5 sets. All their emptyhand
stuff is also done move for move with their weapons.
They teach emptyhand first these days... but according to their
oral history it used to be weapons first (starting with the broadsword)
and much later emptyhanded.
Makes sense to me.. I wonder if this might be common in the battlefield
styles of chinese martial arts.... hsing-i 's spear obviously comes to mind.let's talk about why fat-fu shall we?
11/02/2004 5:36pm, #46Originally Posted by deepbluehalo