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  1. Draggor is offline

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    Is swordfighting a martial art?

    I was wondering if there is an exact definition of a martial art. How far does it extend? Were European knights practicing a martial art because they were weilding swords?

    If any of you know some kind of concrete definition for a martial art I'd like to hear it.

    Personally I believed that martial arts were reserved mostly to weaponless techniques and occasionally expanded to the use of weapons, but that swordsmanship was something different from a martial art.
  2. Ronin is online now

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    Silly question.
    Of course swordfighting is a MA.

    Martial - refering to war
    Art - stylistic expression

    So ... do the math.
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    Silly question.
    Of course swordfighting is a MA.

    Martial - refering to war
    Art - stylistic expression

    So ... do the math.
    he's such a nice guy:D
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    What on Vishnu's green Earth would cause you to believe that???

    Weapons have been a part of fighting since Time Immemorial. At the "creation" of martial arts, the sword, the club, the spear and the bow were all emphasized.

    Without weaponry it's just pajama dancing.
    Kung fu is translated as "stand around and talk."
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    Damn I hope it's a martial art. Otherwise, what the hell am I training? Baton twirling?

    If you don't think wordfighting is martial enough, try BJJ on some guy with a rapier. Or a knife. Or a decent sized stick.
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    Crap.

    "I'll take S-words for 200, Alex."
    "That's swords, you idiot!"
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    I thought we had the discussion that the "art" in "martial art" refers in more cases to extremely refined skill and not creative expression. In any case *I* think it's much more comprehensive to define martial arts as refined ability in skills related to war.

    That said, I think you could say that many empty-hand training from systems (that were around during times of pre-firearm-dominant warfare) are lessons for using and dealing with weaponry including swords or whatever other tools were used in each respective era/region. Not so say that those principles are still intact in all those systems :) But in short, empty-hand, sword, rifle, strategy, are all aspects of martial arts.
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    Even tactics and strategy would probably count, seriously.
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    Originally posted by El Tejon
    What on Vishnu's green Earth would cause you to believe that???

    Weapons have been a part of fighting since Time Immemorial. At the "creation" of martial arts, the sword, the club, the spear and the bow were all emphasized.

    Without weaponry it's just pajama dancing.
    Not if you do it on the nude.
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    THAT'S NOTHING, I USED TO KNOW SOME 12 YEAR-OLDS WHO COULD FIT INSIDE A SUITCASE AND STAY ALIVE FOR 7 OR WAS IT 6 HOURS
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