Posted On:8/28/2004 8:57pm
Style: Fist in your mouth
Hello, I'm posting this in a few forums to see what people think and find out if others are training with these. I start my training in the next few weeks, the instructor is actually a WingTsun Kung Fu instructor as well.
This is a link for clubbells, I know a lot of mma and kung fu folk are using them, any ideas?
Posted On:8/29/2004 9:14am
I just ordered a pair so I'll let you guys know how they are
Posted On:8/29/2004 5:52pm
Style: Wing Chun, Muay Thai
I've never even seen those. Do you just use them like regular weights?
Posted On:8/29/2004 6:12pm
Actually it's circular swinging istead of static lifts.
There is a lot of info on their site, lots of UFC guys, karate, wing chun and even Shaolin-do people using these now.
They are modern versions of the oldest forms of weightlifting: Persian Meels and Indian Clubs used for grip and upper body strength training and shoulder rotation for wrestlers without adding a too much bulk.
Last edited by choi yap zoi; 8/29/2004 6:15pm at .
Posted On:8/29/2004 9:55pm
Couldn't you use sledgehammers instead of the lighter clubs? I think it would be a lot cheaper, no?
Posted On:8/29/2004 11:08pm
Probably, but honestly money isn't too much of an issue when it comes to good training. I don't actually own a lot trendy gadgets but the few things I get... I really only do so if I trust them. I've done this kind of training with the hammers for work only and the same with sandbags but I'm willing to take it to the next level so I'm not gonna cut corners or be cheap about my training either.
Honestly though, I don't think that I would get the same results but until I actually hold them in my hand, I can't say for sure.
I'm putting some trust into it because they have been recommended by the "right" people, because the science is there behind and because I've seen results in similar training I've done.
Posted On:8/30/2004 10:40am
Style: aikido / judo
Originally posted by choi yap zoi
I'm putting some trust into it . . . because the science is there . . . .
Where's the science? I've never seen Sonnon actually provide scientific evidence, he just likes to throw around pseudo-scientific words.
Posted On:8/30/2004 10:43am
Style: Shi Ja Quan
Okinawan Goju guys have being using something like that for ages.
And it looks cooler when you wear a gi and have a constipated look on your face.
Posted On:9/01/2004 12:14am
Style: VC gay love massage
Kod he's proven the science stuff and he's a regular guest speaker brought in to the national Strength and Conditioning Coaches Convention, so I'll give him that. what pisses me off is that he acts as if he created indian Club training. he quotes hundreds of different sources in his books but you'll NEVER see him talk about it publicly. He pretends HE created something that martail artists have been doing for CENTURIES all over the planet. And if you confront him on it he backpedals and says that all he did was make it accessible to the public and applied sport science to what was just a culturel tradition. Ever worse is that he claims to his stuff is for REALL combat performance when he's a sport grappler. Who gives a **** that he was a world sombo champ? He tries to pull the bullshit leap of logic that athletics has anything to do with street fights, battlefield combat or even controlling criminals.
Posted On:9/01/2004 2:13am
I read the 10 reasons thing and it's mostly about the clubbell vs a plate loading device. There's a lot of little perks, but I don't see how it is better than sledgehammers other than personal preference.
I don't know, maybe after you get them you can compare them to sledgehammers and tell us about it.
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