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    I think acupuncture is physiological, which is why it works. Chi is mystical, which is why it does not work.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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    Chi as explained in the mystic sense was the way to explain the bio electric impulses the brain use to communicate to muscle in a time of limited science. Like a car engine that is tuned and aligned correctly can produce maximum horsepower, the body staying loose, correct form and reathing during a technique can produce maximum power and speed. I am not saying super power just the max the body can produce according to the condition of the person. Now using chi to knockout people without touching or yelling a kiai I have trouble believing. I train vital point/joint manipulation as a way to target the best area to attack.

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    reathing = breathing .... oops

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    Do you really train or just bore people on message boards and parties talking about it.

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    Such as thou art, sometime was I. supporting member
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    Hey look, that's fine. But my point has never been that certain advantages can't be had from Taiji, or that things that qi is meant to explain can't be observed. Neither do I think that I stepped into anything KC. The problem is that TCM cannot separate truth from fact without the intervention of scientific reasoning. When the "lab" discovers certain health benefits related to acupuncture, that's not a triumph for TCM, that's a triumph for science. Do you see what I mean? One of the problems is that the most prominent representatives are the ones making the crackpot claims.

    **The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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    You only stepped in it when you said 'accupuncture doesn't work'. But you are correct, real explanations need to be sought out.

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    KC calling someone else a nazi.......that's rich!!!

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    Hey... stop stealing my thunder... I called wastrela nazi. In the nicest possible sense, obviously. :)
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    Also... non of you are ridiculing Alex Chiu, the next God Emperor of the Universe....
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    That's so sweet Sam.

    **The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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    Sadly, I know people who believe in this magnet stuff...

    I think I may have gone to school with this guy or something...he looks familiar. LOL!


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