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  1. Dochter is offline

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    9/24/2004 1:33pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    cross lapel chokes

    Mikus et al.: You're not going to get cross choked from combat anyway.

    The palm&gi into the throat is good. I've not had to worry about getting armbarred from it because, well you're already getting chocked. They have to quit the choke to switch to an armbar. You're also crushing their trachea which seems to distract people.

    This is with the caveat though that I only ever roll with blues.
  2. Aesopian is offline

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    9/24/2004 1:38pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Also, I sparred with a blue belt and observed the corollary of the above rule:

    You avoid attacks from the guard by keeping proper posture.

    We started from standing and he pulled guard on me pronto. I heard Eduardo and some others yelling "Gah, don't let him close guard!" I just looked up and said "No problem" and smiled. I heard a blue belt saying "Listen to that, 'no problem', he says. Let's see him back that up."

    I just made sure I kept proper posture, returning to it whenever he got me out of it. I passed his guard, got side control and then mount. He rolled me and I got an armbar from the guard. :cool:
    Last edited by Aesopian; 9/24/2004 1:41pm at .
  3. mikus is offline

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    Posted On:
    9/24/2004 3:19pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You like to brag.
    You want some birth control? You can smoke a cigarette.
  4. Aesopian is offline

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    9/24/2004 3:26pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You obviously don't read my training log, wherein I spend most of my time talking about getting choked out by white belts.
    Last edited by Aesopian; 9/24/2004 3:28pm at .
  5. mikus is offline

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    9/24/2004 3:47pm


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    I was just being a dick. And no, I did not read it.
    You want some birth control? You can smoke a cigarette.
  6. Aesopian is offline

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    9/27/2004 3:23pm

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    Originally posted by Gringo Grande
    Aesopian,

    [Omoplata recommendation.]

    Gringo Grande
    I wanted to let you know that I've been using this. I actually learned it when I was a 3 week white belt, but had forget about it until you reminded me. Thanks. :cool:

    On the subject of collar chokes from the guard, my instructor actually had us drill them because "I know a lot of you will say they don't work from the guard, but I've seen purple and browns belts use them on each other, so why not at least try them if they are there."
  7. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    9/27/2004 3:29pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have Barret Yoshida's triangle and armbar tape.

    All attacks from the crooked guard.

    Hit me up in email if you want it, subfigther@gmail.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  8. Ronin is offline

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    Posted On:
    9/27/2004 3:35pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "crooked guard" ?
  9. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    9/27/2004 3:59pm

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    Yes crooked guard.

    Left leg goes over the right shoulder and closes with right ankle.

    Makes it very easy to do armbars and triangles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  10. Aesopian is offline

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    9/27/2004 4:01pm

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    Is this is position you start most triangles with, where they have one arm in and one arm out?
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