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  1. Shuma-Gorath is offline
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    Muscular fatigue during pullups

    While doing my usual three sets of pullups, I find that my arms (specificially the biceps) reach failure while I feel almost nothing in my upper back or lats. I'm doing standard wide-grip pullups. I can actually do more narrow-grip chins, but that supposedly stresses my arms more!

    Am I not doing the pullup motion right or is my back just that much stronger than my arms? Somehow I think it's the former on account of the close-grip chins thing.
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    Which way are your palms facing?
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    Away, of course. When I do the close-grip chins they are towards me.
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    try pre-exhaustion. or pulldowns, you freak.
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    Palms towards you gives your biceps the strongest position and allows you to do the most reps, other than that, Jen is correct, you will need to pre-ehxuast them (your lats).
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    or just work long enough on pullups that your biceps doesn't fatigue bevore your lats.
    when i started doing pullups, my lats and biceps grew no freaking cm, but my forearms did. THEN came the biceps and now slowly the lat is setting in
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    Semi-supinated grip is a very valid alternative in this case. Just don't use the very narrow machine atachment, leave some space.
    Do you curl at all?
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    Curling is the national sport of Canada isn't it?


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    Lacrosse.

    Update: I can do 8+ chins but struggle to manage three wide-grip pullups. I rarely curl since half the lifting guides I read say upper-arm workouts are a waste of time.

    Despite that I still work a variation of tricep push-downs using the rope grip:

    -Start grip at face level and grab the rope palms forward
    -Pull elbows into body
    -Push triceps down as normal
    -Stand upright throughout.

    I figure it might give me a stronger clinch?
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    the problem is that, as a reaction to the usual idiotic gym goers that did nothing BUT curl and chest exercises, nowadays gurus warn not to curl and only minimally target the chest muscles.

    No danger in curling.
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