No longer a Kaju-Critic
Posted On:8/09/2004 1:34am
Style: Kajukenbo, BJJ
Dude... dont invite them here. They are too deadly for the ring. Rules only hold them back. If anyone tried to attack them with their rule based mindset and ring based style we would be instantly owned by their death touches.
Posted On:8/09/2004 5:14am
Style: TKD & Boxing
Martial Arts don't really have to be proven in UFC,Pride, and all those NHB stuff and it's because usually people in the NHB circuit usually cross train and don't stick with their main style their doing and I say NHB isn't a joke...It's real with just MMA gloves and no padding which makes it full contact.
Posted On:8/09/2004 5:34am
Style (at the most basic level) = Set of techniques and methods.
UFC, pride, K-1, KOTC, etc.... these events may not represent single styles regularly.. .but they do represent techniques that do work and dont work. Methods that do work and dont work. If your style contains all the methods and techniques that don't work full contact... then you're screwed. If your style has all the things that couldn't be used at full contact and thusly is never trained alive then you're screwed.
NHB serves to weed out what works and what doesn't. Its a good indicator of that. The one thing we've learned most definatly is that if CAN'T do it in an alive setting with at least medium contact, then you probably can't do it at all. Basically, if you do ear slaps and eye gouges all day against the air and pretty much nothing else... you're probably going to get some anal cavity loving when you try that in real life. if you can take hits, and apply said technique while getting hit, then the technique is sound.
The fact is, if its "too deadly for the ring" its too lame for fighting.
Slap boxing owns UFC.
Posted On:8/09/2004 6:16am
Style: Karate (Wado Ryu)
In the past, I have chuckled to myself and shaken my head in amusement at some of the NHB/UFC/BJJ-nutriding that goes on. Not all of it, just the fanatical "all TMA is crap" stuff.
Then I followed that link, and found my internal monolgue dangerously close to riding those very same nuts.
I particularly liked the wonderfully theoretical argument from "TKD-Student" on how UFC fighters could "just apply pressure" when on the ground to make people submit faster than the "10-15 minutes" he proclaims it takes. With fantastic martial insight "a frying mantis" informs us that TKD-Student is correct in his judgement, only that UFC fighters can't do this because "their technique is pathetic".
Sweet Jesus, TMA-nutriders exist and they anger me even more than the NHB-flavour ones.
(Note : I was already, painfully, aware of the strange beast that is the Chi/Ki fanatic, but that is too specialised and insanely wank to be classed as general TMA-nutriding)
Posted On:8/09/2004 6:49am
Style: MuayThai,Igo Ryu Jiujitsu
Originally posted by chaosexmachina
By educate, you mean pwn, right?
Posted On:8/09/2004 7:03am
Originally posted by JKing
UFC, pride, K-1, KOTC, etc.... these events may not represent single styles regularly.. .but they do represent techniques that do work and dont work.
Before you start flexing your MMA-muscle and bashing TMA's you should take a moment to consider that "The Ring" is just a subset of combat (unarmed one on one). TMA's generally try to prepare you for any situation, not just your typical bar fight (although I admit most schools fail miserably).
The kind of street fight that BJJ/MT prepares you for usually only happens if you deliberately look for trouble (clash of egos), and can be easily avoided. I'm far more concerned about the situations that cannot be avoided. These situations often have the following characteristics:
- you were surprised
- the opponent is stronger than you or there are many opponents
- the opponents carry weapons
I really believe (having done both TMA and MMA for quite some time) that TMA's - if properly trained - are a better choice for those situations than either BJJ or MT.
lord of the glen
Posted On:8/09/2004 7:10am
Style: Kung Fu
CLICK THE ADDS ROMO!
This chapter will also show clips from a high-speed video in which Master Bristol conceals a Swiss Army Knife inside his buttocks. -from "The Magicians Code" by Hans Bristol
Posted On:8/09/2004 7:11am
some may say im easily amused to laugh at a poster named 'VD' respond after a poster named 'MUT'
Posted On:8/09/2004 7:29am
I don't get it manchuria....
but yes VD is smoking crack.
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