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  1. FukFu is offline

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    12/25/2002 6:50pm


     

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    I remember seeing the Thai round kick being used a few times with good results in MMA competitions.

    Are there any TKD kicks that have done as well in MMA competition?


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    The front stamp kick... but thats generic to all arts. There are a LOT of variations on the round kick... so it depends on what they use.

    <Me> John, what do you know about Zen Buddhism? <John> *smacks me*
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    Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."
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    The problem with TKD kicks, they can normally be seen coming by most people with any skill. I'm not dogin TKD, I'm a 2nd degree myself. But, one of the reasons I gave it up is that I prefered the power & speed of MT kicks.
    I do agree with Nihilanthic, a good quick front kick is pretty widely used & it's strong.
    As far as to the head "pretty" kicks..round, cresent or hook, I think in NHB it's too easy to be taken down with high kicks.

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    In the Chuck Liddel/Babalu fight in the last UFC, Chuck managed to put his shin right into babalu's face when he shot for a takedown... his trainer figures out that Babalu always shot for a takedown after a punch combo so he wanted chuck's shin waiting... and boy did it work...

    So, MMA requires a good trainer, and some intelligence of your own... and High Kicks have to be used strategically, not just thrown. In Kickboxing events if you get someone to defend low or if they "know" you're gonna throw a leg/mid kick and you manage to get over that person's gloves, you can knock them in the head... but there is no gaurantee that you will get a KO from that.

    <Me> John, what do you know about Zen Buddhism? <John> *smacks me*
    <John> I'd have to smack you sometime...
    Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."
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    :rolleyes:

    Come on, any decent TKD fighter (not sport competitor) would know that there are two types of roundhouses. One is the roundhouse, the other is the round kick, the very same that are found in muay thai.

    But comparing SPORT styles of the two (fighting arts cannot be compared as it's more individual and will have to go generic) is that TKD kicks are faster, muay thai kicks are geared toward power.

    Samantha, they are not both faster and more powerful. Sport muay thai emphasizes that you use your back leg more. With sport TKD, you use both but more of the faster people use their front leg. So no, it is not both more powerful and faster.

    And any person can see a kick coming. Any decent person can see someone shooting in for the takedown. The thing with kicks is that you have to set it up. With either punches, feints, or if you're fast and agile enough, use angle footwork such as forward and to the left then kicking. Combine all those elements and you have a pretty good chance of landing it, I have. They won't see that coming. You could also try that in muay thai if you compete. Try feinting, using footwork to side-step while at the same time, moving forward of backward (like in the \ direction after feinting and launching a all-out kicking to clinch combo or punching to create distance then kicking.






    Edited by - MartialArtist on December 26 2002 01:23:58
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    12/26/2002 2:23am


     

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    Again, let me verify I was strictly talking about the sport aspects and not the combat version of the arts and even when I was talking about the sport aspects, I was very general

    Edited by - MartialArtist on December 26 2002 01:24:57
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    Uh, how is a roundhouse and a round kick different? I'm not familiar with that nomenclature...

    Oh, two more things. First of all... everyone learns footwork. Well, everyone SHOULD, and anyone with a half-assed trainer would know it...
    Two - you read my post, right?

    <Me> John, what do you know about Zen Buddhism? <John> *smacks me*
    <John> I'd have to smack you sometime...
    Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."
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    Uh, how is a roundhouse and a round kick different? I'm not familiar with that nomenclature...

    Oh, two more things. First of all... everyone learns footwork. Well, everyone SHOULD, and anyone with a half-assed trainer would know it...
    Two - you read my post, right?

    <Me> John, what do you know about Zen Buddhism? <John> *smacks me*
    <John> I'd have to smack you sometime...
    Not necessarily.

    Yes, there are many variations, but the main principle of each. The roundhouse is faster, the round kick is more powerful. The round kick is the same kick in muay thai, while the roundhouse has more of a snapping aspect to it and not as much hip torque is thrown into it.
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    12/26/2002 9:50am


     

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    Hello MartialArtist

    Using your nomenclature (I have seen it used before), which kick, the round house or the round kick do you prefer for street fighting, or maybe you like both for street fighting?




    Edited by - FukFu on December 26 2002 16:11:19
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    12/26/2002 2:45pm


     

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    I really can't say, because I don't roundhouse or round kick that much. But if at all, it would all depend on what came instinctively. I personally like what's faster.
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