Posted On:7/17/2004 11:32am
Style: Boxing, Solar Ray Attack
Last night during practice, one of the guys got KOd and we couldn't wake his ass up with the smelling salts. We were at a loss for any first aid techniques to help him out. (Obviously we took him to the ER.)
Does anyone Know any good advice or first aid for such incidents?
(he woke up on his own just before we got him to the ER)
He was punching him like the collective karmic debt he'd accrued was coming to collections, mostly on his face.
Seeker of Truth
Posted On:7/17/2004 11:58am
Style: Five Animal Fighting
You probably shouldn't have taken him to the ER. You probably should have called a ambulance especially if no one knew what to do. It's human nature to want to rush someone to the hospitial, but you might be causing damage to them by moving them and they won't be getting medical attention on the way. If its something serious its usually better to wait until medical help arives. A emergency services operator should be able to tell you the things you should be doing in the mean time.
Posted On:7/17/2004 12:29pm
good advice, The hospital was actually a block up the street, so we figured It'd be quicker.
the funny thing was he didn't get hit hard. It was like a love tap and then he was out. pretty fucked up, never seen anything like it. we asked him if he was a narcoleptic later that evening...
Posted On:7/17/2004 12:33pm
So you dim-makked his ass?
Posted On:7/17/2004 1:21pm
yeah my friend used the deadly Bladder 23 on him. punk ass
Posted On:7/17/2004 2:56pm
I did some quick research and the concensus seems to be something like this:
If the victim does not regain consciousness right away, you should call immediately for emergency medical assistance.
1. Check the victimís airway, breathing, and circulation. If necessary, begin rescue breathing and CPR.
2. If a spinal injury is not suspected and the victim is lying on his or her back, place the victim in the recovery position. To do this, kneel beside the victim, turn his or her face toward you, put the victimís near arm at his or her side and place it under his or her buttock. Place the victimís other arm across the chest. Move the victimís far leg over the near leg so the ankles are crossed. While supporting the victimís head with one hand, grab the clothing at the hip and pull the victim toward you. Bend the victimís top arm to support the upper body. Bend the victimís top knee to support the lower body. Gently tilt the victimís head back to make sure the airway is open.
3. If a spinal injury is suspected, leave the victim as he or she was found (as long as he or she is breathing freely). If spinal injury is suspected and the victim vomits, "log roll" the victim by supporting the neck and spine to keep head position neutral with body position while turning the victim on the side.
The 2001 revision of the Cantu Concussion Grading System says any loss of consciousness over 1 minute is a SEVERE concussion and advises a minimum layoff of 30 days, plus an additional week free of any symptoms.
Any loss of conciousness, even a "flash ko" that only lasts a few seconds should be checked out by a doctor.
Shogun of Long Island
Posted On:7/18/2004 5:53am
before you do the ABC's don't forget to do the scene assessment. that's when you take a look at what's going on and see if it's safe to start laughing about what just happened.
Posted On:7/18/2004 5:55am
technically a concussion doesn't even have to involve a loss of consciousness, it just involves loss of memory for the event that caused it. memory loss, irritability, etc. can linger for weeks or months.
The Eternal n00b
Posted On:7/18/2004 6:27am
Style: CM Boxing/BJJ/RBSD
Just out of curiousity, how many people have checked whether their instructor has certification in a legit first aid course?
That said I've done a 1st aid course, and I wouldn't trust the majority of other people there to perform first aid on me.
Posted On:7/18/2004 6:30am
If I recall correctly, #3 should involve supporting the head even after the roll. Also, the victim's breathing should be checked every minute.
Edit: Just out of curiousity, how common is it for people to have a first aid cert? Also, what kind of level is that cert?
Last edited by Zeddy; 7/18/2004 6:33am at .
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