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  1. mikus is offline

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    I'd do judo and wrestling if my shoulders weren't little bitches. Judo for the throws and wrestling for the no-gi tie ups to use my judo throws. As it is, I just do judo groundwork.
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     Style: anti-bubba love-kwon fu

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    I don't know much about Aikido, and what I could find on google didn't tell me much. I only know a bit more about judo which is why I thought I would ask those who train in both of them. I know greco has some throws in it, but I don't want to wrestle. in case of multiple opponents, from what I have read here, Aikido would work better since you throw them away from you, giving you time to face the other/s. which is exactly what I'm looking for, street effectiveness, not MMA. But please let me know if I'm wrong.
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    Go judo dammnit! Aikido is okay, if no resistance and static teaching is your thing. And if you do boxing, I'm assuming it's not.

    And if there's one thing video games teach you, don't throw people behind and away to deal with the others, throw him into his teammates so they all topple and make a grunt. This will reduce all their HPs to zero and they'll blink away on the ground.
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    7/10/2004 5:40pm


     Style: Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu

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    If you throw the guy to your feet, you can work on standing pins that control him while leaving you somewhat free to deal with other potential threats. I agree that judo is going to be the most common source with a relatively forgiving learning curve.
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  5. mod com gym is offline

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    7/10/2004 5:49pm


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    Aikido they throw people "away" so they can roll and don't get hurt.
    Judo you pull up alittle as the land to soften the fall (IF YOU WANT)
    A problem with aikido is the throws are based on attacks that don't happen a high percentage in the street (ie, a knife hand strike to the forehand or a wrist grab)
    Judo and wrestling deal with what people will do, grab on to the big parts of your body (ie head, torso)
    And you say you "don't want to wrestle". I take it you mean in the street. If that's the case then you had better learn to wrestle IN THE GYM. It's like the ground...the easiest guy to takedown and pound is the guy who "would never go to the ground". Not wanting to wrestle and not beliving that ground fighting is any good is the fastes way to end up face planted with some guy choking you from the back or soccer kicking your head.
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    Posted On:
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    Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu
    i cannot believe that, after reading these forums, you are considering aikido. i can tell you this much- after only a couple of months of judo I can throw my non judo friends around like rag dolls and control them with impunity on the ground. judo is cheap, the whole system is based around fighting someone who is resisting, and also has groundwork in case you find a street that doesnt have broken glass on it.
    Agreed. I hate to sound like a nutrider, but you'd be amazed how easy it is to throw untrained people and even dedicated strikers. I'm not talking about foot sweeps either. MAJOR FORWARD THROWS!
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    Posted On:
    7/10/2004 7:58pm


     Style: TMA

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    Aikido has fancy costumes.
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     Style: anti-bubba love-kwon fu

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    gotcha, thanks for the help I will definately go judo thanks everybody, you have been a big help.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: BJJ/Judo

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    If you're truly curious about Aikido then go to a class and talk to the instructor about your goals and what you're looking to learn. Then do the same for Judo. I've had very positive experiences in Aikido but unfortunately not everybody has. You just have to check it out for yourself and make up your own mind. Don't listen to people who don't have any experience in it and are just repeating what they've heard.

    I visited the website of Aikido in Anchorage www.aikidonorth.org It's Aikikai, which is normal Aikido. The dojo-cho is under Frank Doran sensei who is very good. It could be really cool, it might not. I think it'd be worth checking out.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: BJJ/Judo

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    Originally posted by mod com gym

    A problem with aikido is the throws are based on attacks that don't happen a high percentage in the street (ie, a knife hand strike to the forehand or a wrist grab)
    not totally accurate, wrist grabs and shomenuchis (knife hand to head) are taught to beginners to teach them the "connection" needed to perform the technique, later on you build up to punches, kicks, etc. which are dealt with in the same manner. It's hard to describe in a few words, but you are partially correct in that they teach wrist grabs and knife hand strikes, but that's not all they teach. We do shoulder grabs, lapel grabs and the like, but Aikido is more principle based so you just blend with the attack and use the technique that presents itself. Also Aikido teaches knife take-aways and sword take-aways.

    But all this is not to detract from Judo which is also a superior art so really it depends on what your goals are. And groundfighting IS important.
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