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  1. xodus2 is offline

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    I think you have some valid points, particularly the training methodology which can make a difference between a good school and a mcdojo.

    So just on the point of wing chun being tested in vale tudo. Is that guy in your photo actually claiming to be a wing chun guy? Or is he simply using techniques that are similar to wing chun techniques? It does seem a bit like if I claimed Fedor was a BJJ guy cos he uses the guard well and slaps on a good armbar.

    Are there any actual wing chun stylists with a winning record in mma, rather than people who's fighting techniques are similar to wing chun?
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    Wing Chun has its good points. After studying WC I now jam kicks alot with my low line kicks. Used em at the ATL Throwdown over weekend. I also used them while training in Kickboxing adn it really frustrated my opponents.
    I am not overly fond of the punching techniques but that is becuase thaey do not fit in with how I fight.

    Wing Chun is not bad in and of itself but the way it is trained sometimes makes it bad.
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    Good thread.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


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    chuan jammed me with a low hook kick
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    Xodus2: Sorry, i assumed you knew. The man in the photo is Thomas Lamont, 3rd techincal degree (from Nick Smart, who was certified under Leung Ting) in Wing Tzun, broken away from the WingTsun organisation to form the Chum Sut Total Fighting Academy and system. He's a WT instructor - my instructor.
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    Originally posted by locu5
    chuan jammed me with a low hook kick
    That was my secret foot to ass kick.

    Otherwise know as the Dirty Foot technique. T3H D34DLY !!!!
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    cheers das moose - that answers my question ;)
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    Originally posted by Das Moose
    He's a WT instructor - my instructor.
    You lucky, lucky bastard. I have to complement my striking techniques with muay thai to compensate for the total absence of a hardcore wing chun gym in São Paulo.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
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    A hand under his head.


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    7/05/2004 10:22am


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    Xodus2 - no fear mate, it just slipped my mind to mention it because i've been harpin on about it in every single WC thread before now ;-)

    WCL - God, i know! Back when i was totally and utterly clueless about MAs and just wanted something a bit more decent than shitty jujitsu (the JJ over here is fucking shite), A friend of mine was doing WingTsun in belfast, was able to pretty much kick the crap out of me at will, searched on the net and it just so happened that Chum Sut was the nearest WC club to me :-D
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    Posted On:
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    Oy vei. Still I´ll keep doing WC - the teacher actually knows his stuff, but he is too damn traditional to allow free sparring, and anyway the WC concepts and techniques are amazing (my MT coach still doesn´t believe the straight punch can pack some decent power, but I, IMHO, know better...).
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


    - W.B. Yeats
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