Thread: Kountering the Klinch
6/29/2004 10:14am, #1
Kountering the Klinch
One of the guys I train with semi-regularly will often try to clinch me when we're doing stand-up. He's quite a bit bigger than I am (he's got about 65 pounds on me) and--while it's big fun to stand for hours at a time, trying to prevent myself from taking knees to the head--I'd really like to be able to escape from that position fairly quickly.
Sometimes I'll twist my hips and move in to throw or away to duck under (dangerous, I know). Shooting in also seems fairly risky, because I think I'm fucked if he sprawls well--all too easy from that position. Any suggestions?
6/29/2004 10:18am, #2
6/29/2004 10:26am, #3
But if you are serious...
You can try for a standing arm lock, jumping arm bar, slip down to a ankle lock, go behind him for a belly-to-back takedown, cross kick his front leg, an armbar takedown, a sacrifice throw, even a sneeky uppercut to creat an opening for a jumping spinning splits kick followed by a 2 1/2 twist and a full gainer !!
6/29/2004 10:32am, #4
6/29/2004 10:33am, #5
6/29/2004 10:33am, #6
the clinch is a fun position. a couple fairly easy techniques to try to counter:
if you can get to the side a bit, try tani otoshi.
if not try stepping across the body for a sweep (the name escapes me).Locu5
combat sports hobbyist
6/29/2004 10:57am, #7
I checked out tani otoshi at JudoInfo.com . . . it looks like a variation of TCC's single lotus to me, i.e. twisting/pulling down the torso, while sweeping the leg as part (the opposite side, really) of the same circular motion--only letting yourself fall sidways as you do this. From there, you land on his shoulder, controlling his arm. Is that correct?
6/29/2004 11:01am, #8
6/29/2004 11:17am, #9it looks like a variation of TCC's single lotus to meLocu5
combat sports hobbyist
6/29/2004 12:15pm, #10
I like to roll to mount as I do this throw, check oput my Tani Otoshi thread for a good video. If it's strictly stand-up you are pretty fucked with that weight disadvantage(assuming similar skill). Take a look at Thai clinch work too. There may be some openings you haven't seen especially if he leans forward at all.
Direct link to Tani Otoshi video: http://www.judo-for-all.com/Theory/T...ani-Otoshi.htm