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  1. jaychiu is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/24/2004 10:06pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Matt Thornton doesn't play the lineage game. It's what the person can do/teach that matters. NOT who showed him, how many certificates he has, etc.
  2. that guy is offline

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    8/24/2004 10:36pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Yes, Vunak and Thornton disagree on some issues, but both are outstanding representatives of the JKD community
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    agreed
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    Originally posted by Chupacabra
    is JKD trapping like the trapping in WC?
    Some of it is. But JKD goes alot further than WC. They basically added more trapping techniques and ways to aply trapping. The JKD guys made it a fine art.
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    Originally posted by that guy
    Yes, Vunak and Thornton disagree on some issues, but both are outstanding representatives of the JKD community
    I have to agree as well. I would say many of the various off shoots of JKD have various valid aspects of fighting to teach.
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  6. Hawkeye is offline
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    Posted On:
    8/25/2004 10:17pm

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    Apologies for going somewhat OT

    jaychiu, you might be able to answer this question for me:

    I'm just wondering but does Burt Richardson have a connection with Matt Thornton? I aint trying to stir up any lineage **** but curious about if they were training partners or friends or something?
    Last edited by Hawkeye; 8/25/2004 10:19pm at .
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  7. SlimJim is offline

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    8/26/2004 12:57am

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    :::shakes his head:::

    Where's Omega with his usual remark about JKD?
  8. RattenKrieg is offline

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    8/26/2004 1:02am


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    Originally posted by Blad3
    SBG JKD trapping isn't from what I've seen, it's like Greco wrestling, Muay Thai and MMA clinching.
    No it's like the wing chun. And there is nothing wrong with wing chun, as long as you learn other ranges.
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    8/26/2004 1:03am


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    Originally posted by jaychiu
    Paul Vunak is not, to my understanding, associated with SBGi. I think there is this misconception because Matt Thornton may have trained with a PFS JKD person before founding SBG.

    SBG does not teach trapping in the WC sense. SBG teaches the clinch taken from wrestling. My understanding is that this is these two are very different.

    A person's lineage has no direct connection to the person's ability to coach or to what the person's ability are. Is it worth training with the person? Try it and find out.
    sbg is a mma school not a jkd school well maybe jkd at concept but so is all mma really.
  10. Mark Su Kow is offline

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    Vunak was hired years ago to give training to the U.S Coast Guard Law Enforcement Teams. I was in one of the classes in Alameda Ca. His system was geared more toward law enforcement for us, but it was all good stuff real no nonsense. His staff was professional and well trained. Do not pass up this chance. Just go in with an open mind.
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