Gracie McDojos make baby Jesus cry

**Tenguru** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 3:44pm

Of course it's BS. I'm just saying that the teachers in academies like this also know it's BS, and are probably taking students money with the intention of not actually promoting them to BB, thereby maintaining the credibility of a GJJ black belt. I'm just pointing out that this is a little different than ppl teaching students crap while simultaneously believing that what they are teaching students is actually effective.

**bushi51** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:11pm

I think it is possible. Look at Lloyd Irving www.grapplingblueprint.com

On a side note, can you imagine how much money he is probably raping from his students (Reylson, that is)
300 privates at probably 100 an hour= $30,000. Who can afford that ****?

**NHB_Ben** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:13pm

Ah. It's my understanding the Lloyd had already had a bb in Judo and Sambo before he started training in BJJ. And, not only that, but when he did start training bjj, it was an 8 hour/day sort of thing.

**Tenguru** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:13pm

What about Lloyd Irvin? His students are kicking ass. You can't argue with results, can you? Explain your beef with him, please.

**Dochter** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:25pm

That was his point tenguru. Just that there are exceptions to everything.

**Tenguru** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:30pm

Oh, sorry. I misunderstood the post.

**bushi51** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:48pm

No sorry necessary, my point was it is possible to get black in 3 a la Lloyd and yes, his students do kick ass.

**Tenguru** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:50pm

bushi51, do you train at Lloyd Irvins school?

**bushi51** · Posted On: 6/17/2004 4:51pm

Originally posted by NHB_Ben
Ah. It's my understanding the Lloyd had already had a bb in Judo and Sambo before he started training in BJJ. And, not only that, but when he did start training bjj, it was an 8 hour/day sort of thing.

I am not sure, but I think most of those 8 hours He did drills and functional exercises that shotgunned his progress, thus his Grappling Blueprint (which I can't wait for distribution).