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  1. En is offline
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    Originally posted by Djimbe
    Or Berets ...

    BUT , if you did Beanies ... just THINK of the Possibilities !!!

    "I earned my Blue Beanie/Orange Propeller last night !!!"
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     Style: The Jits & Muay Thai

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    Why are they so greedy?? I think that I would want the prosperity of my family. WTF???
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    Originally posted by Wyllie
    Just a Spark :

    Otavio Mitsuo Maeda taught Jujutsu/Judo (no more discussions, please) first to Carlos Gracie, Helio's oldest brother. Therefore, wouldn't Carlos Gracie Jr, who teaches in Rio de Janeiro today, be the "inheritor" of the system ?
    Why should Carlinhos inherit? The eldest son is Carlson by far.

    I'm not an expert on succession by any means, but bearing in mind that there are other living 10th Dans - Reylson, I think, and Helio's other brothers too. Rorion could hardly overtake them.
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    There is a lot of controversy about who the REAL GM of GJJ etc. is. Carley, Carlson etc. all claim that Carlos Sr. is the true GM and that HE was the one that converted the JJ he was taught to use against real life situations. He WAS the one that started the Gracie Challenge in the 1920's and that was several years before Helio ever fought. Plus, Carlos Sr. was smaller than Helio by about two inches and ten pounds, yet he went undefeated. Another of Helio's older brothers Osvaldo, faought in challenge matches also before Helio. The Carlos side of the family claim that Helio and Rorion are simply trying to take credit for what their father did. They claim that it worked because Rorion learned English first and got over here to get the lock on the market.
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    i can't wait for all the fun lineage wars. yeaaaah!
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     Style: Judo, Jujitsu

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    Again, it seems Blad3 is up to date, 2 weeks past due.
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     Style: Muay Thai & BJJ

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    Originally posted by simps76
    I dare you to go tell that to Carlson. Helio is one of the founding fathers, but not THE founding father.
    What are we in High School, fucktard?

    Oh wait, maybe you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    GJJ and MJJ ( machado juijitsu) are basically the same, though I find MJJ more competition oriented rather than MMA oriented.
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    Kosen judo puts GJJ ground work to shame WITH A GI ON, without a gi GJJ is far superior.
    Ronin69, what led you to form these opinions, particularly the one about Kosen ground work being superior to GJJ?
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    Just observation and my opinion, that is as full of **** as everyone elses :)
    Kosen judo, in regards to GI Ground work, seems, to be more "advanced".
    Again this is just based on what I have seen in terms of instructional video/dvd/books, and has NOTHING to do with competition, just the curriculum.
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    Originally posted by Anthracis
    Why are they so greedy?? I think that I would want the prosperity of my family. WTF???
    There are like a billion of them. Like rabbits I tell you.
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