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    Careful: n00bs R dangerous

    Nursing a hyperextended elbow back to full health (semi-chronic injury). I always get injured with an armbar courtesy of an overzealous n00b (...oh boy I'm submitting the "pretty good guy"). It happens to me bc I like to focus on my D, weaknesses, new stuff when grappling a n00b. This in turn can frustrate a n00b and when they finally get a sub. (through their effort or I just let them), they go Mach 4 and mess up my elbow.

    Advice on how to minimize accidents like these (pls don't say, "...stop getting armbarred a$$") welcome; Burns welcome too as I will be monitoring my post minute by minute.

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    Yup, I hate grappling with new people.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I am also on the bench for 3-6 weeks as the result of an overzealous armbar. I always tap early, but this time it was just too fast. Honestly, when it's someone who's not being malicious but just gets overexcited every once in a while, I don't know what you can do about it.
    "I'm offering straight punch, kick while downed to the ribs or head, and of course- the german suplex...which is one suplex quickly followed by another." - Guerilla Fists

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    I've "heard" of a policy of teaching n00bs only the importance of positioning and transitions and leaving subs. for later on. But how boring is that? when you're trying to get a n00b to love grappling.

    I don't know, maybe layoff armbar teaching for a while while allowing chokes and other subs. requiring less sensitivity - as the difference between a tap-able sub and injury is a matter of centimeters/millimeters (or inches for you wankers)

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    Its because noobs are an unknown quantity where as you know what the more experianced people in the art you train will do. Wich is pretty much what you will do.

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    I know I'm a n00b on here and Tai-grip you're a lightweight, a case of the kettle calling the pot black, but what in the "goony goo goo" do you mean?
    Last edited by Ronson; 6/19/2004 2:05am at .

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    When I first started, my instructor schooled me on self control by beating my ass.. I was hitting to hard on the other instructors.. so he cured me..

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    Well in most cases once you've got the sub locked in, it's really not necessary to totally tear their arm off. Generally speaking once i've got the arm bar locked in, you are NOT getting away, so i just gradually tighten up and then release the instant they tap.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    (by which i mean, tell the n00bs they don't need to rip your arm off to get you to tap out)

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    but when going for a far armbar it does have to be put on relatively quickly doesnt it?
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