Neutral, or nearly so
Posted On:6/15/2004 12:29pm
At the same time? Seems contradictory to how a triangle works. Pics?
Posted On:6/15/2004 12:49pm
Style: Shi Ja Quan
Posted On:6/15/2004 12:57pm
Posted On:6/15/2004 12:59pm
You probably end up favoring one thing over the other, either the choke or the arm bar, I don't think you can do BOTH 100%.
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Posted On:6/15/2004 7:17pm
Style: Kajukenbo, BJJ
Wow, I want to learn that too. I can get the single armbar with triangle sometimes...
Posted On:6/15/2004 7:56pm
Style: Filthy Jailhouse Tactics
My instructor was demonstrating this the other day.
ronin69 is correct. One is favored over the other. One is more to set up and lock in the other. But the other advantage is that you can change your "focused" move really quickly if your opponent is about to break one of those subs.
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Posted On:6/15/2004 9:44pm
Marcus Vinicius uses this one all the time.
Let me explain how to set it up:
You pass the guard and take sidecontrol with your hips switched out like Kesa Gatame. Take one arm and get it between your legs. Now step over the head and pull on that arm as you lock the figure 4 with your legs. You will basically be doing a triangle while sitting on your opponents head.
The arm INSIDE the triangle is put into a shoulder lock americana or kimura using your leg as the fulcrum. The OUTSIDE arm is locked using a crush, bracing the wrist against your shoulder as you put pressure on the elbow. Best to set up the crush FIRST and then go after the bent armlock SECOND.
Probably a bad explanation. Go see MV at BHJJC for a demonstration.
Posted On:6/15/2004 9:48pm
Style: anti-bubba love-kwon fu
I have to admit that is pretty badass, I don't know how practical it is, but it looks awesome.
Posted On:6/15/2004 11:41pm
Style: Punk Rock
Alexander Otsuka nailed Mike BOurke with a double armbar in a Pride fight....hadda be a work.
Posted On:6/16/2004 2:33am
I don't like Mike Bourke much, he claims jiu jitsu but the only ground game I have ever seen him do is the fact that he can wrap his legs to do a half ass guard. Also he has a glass jaw. For a guy who is a self-proclaimed "badass" he gets KO'ed alot. But I'm getting off topic here, that is one of those submissions that you may NEVER get a chance to apply in today's competition.
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