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    Homosexuality and warrior castes have gone hand-in-dick for centuries:
    The Spartans and Greeks
    Romans
    Samurai
    The supposed homosexual rituals of the Templar Knights
    In the Indian culture
    And the list goes on and on and on, much like my schlong. :)

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    There was actually an entire movement in feudal Japan endorsing Samurai homosexuality. To be fully honest, I don't feel like going "Samuel Browning" on the research (I say this in a complimentary way btw)...but there are direct areas in the Hagakure (do a search on google for Hagakure and homosexuality for one, the other I recall is a lot more direct and specific covering full on long term commitments and is in the first or second chapter of the book.


    And there is this as well:

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/...sehistory.html

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    Existant, yes. Commonplace . . . that seems really sketchy.
    MY NAME IS ANTAGONY I SUCK AT COMBAT SPORTS KTHX

    "blahblahblah, but I don't think I'm going to train tonight."
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    Their Katanas weren't the only swords they got their hands around then.
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    "Homosexuality and warrior castes have gone hand-in-dick for centuries"

    Sort of like Greese and Homosexuality.
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    The Knights Templar? Really? Hadn't heard that one. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but. . . . well, the Greeks didn't really have any kind of cultural or religious problem with homosexuality per se, and neither did the Japanese (Buddhist priests did much the same things--sort of a "limited" homosexuality practiced mostly with other members of their own orders, and mostly between elders and youngsters.)

    The Knights Templar came from a society and a religion that didn't tolerate homosexuality (EDIT: "open" homosexuality) all that well, so I wonder how it would become part of their ritual? I could see covert relations developing, I guess, but acceptance as part of their orthodoxy seems strange. Does anyone have further information on this (or the Knights Templar in general?)
    Last edited by Don Gwinn; 6/14/2004 5:02pm at .

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    hehe koreans are t3h gh3y

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    According to Dan Brown, who at least pretends to cite sources, The Knights Templar rumor was more done to discredit the order due to heritical beliefs.

    Who cares though? If you spend 9 months of the year under rough conditions without any chance of female companionship is it that big of a surprise? Look at prisons.

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    Ultimate proof: Go play Tekken and tell me that guy's not a fag. All he does is chase Jin around for the whole game....


    Sorry... I couldn't resist...

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    Warriors who have sex with other men when they don't have captive slavegirls to rape and can't impregnate their wives because they're at home with the kids...aren't homosexual in any reasonable sense of the term.

    They may be mechanized attack squad, depending on their regiment...
    I would liken it to the boxing or the muay thai of internal kung fu, even though that's like calling apples the oranges of the apple world. --WalkOn

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