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  1. Traditional Tom is offline
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     Style: Mixed Martial Arts

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    The Challenge - issued to all grapplers/bjj'ers etc

    Hey guys, I was just reading that 'karate, muay thai, boxing' thread and that whole 'kung fu vs grapplers' started and all the grapplers and what not started mocking it, so I was just wondering.

    How DO you beat grapplers/bjjers/whatever?

    I imagine most of the people who do these kind of styles would know the weaknesses of them, so I was just wondering what people think their weaknesses of their styles are.

    If other people are bitter about any serious encounters in which their martial arts training has failed as well, feel free to rant, think of it as a support group ;)

    Also, this is my first post on this thread, I think these forums are great
    :D so brutually honest.

    Post away!
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  2. Shuma-Gorath is offline
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     Style: BJJ - Homeland Security

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    What exactly is your "challenge"?

    In response to your query: You train to beat fighters of certain styles by training against that style, or if required/desired by training in that style.
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  3. Traditional Tom is offline
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    learn to grapple... well... ok... what else could I do, as my karate school isnt exactly big on the whole grapple thing.

    Shu: my challenge is, for grapplers/wrestlers/etc to try and analyze their own styles and find what their weaknesses are in them. (and obviously, how I can capitalize on them... oops.. probably shouldnt have said that, oh well)

    lol

    -TT
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  4. Dochter is offline

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     Style: BJJ

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    Train against grapplers and learn takedown defenses as well as rudimentary grappling so as to know how, when and with what to escape.

    Think of it this way: I, currently grappling, want to learn how to defend against strikers. How do I do this without learning the rudiments of striking and training against strikers? That's right I don't.
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  5. Ka-Bar is offline
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     Style: Clinchology: Judo & MT

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    +HEr3'S n0 $t0pPInG +h3 GRapplE!

    Rudy Reyes > Bear Grylls
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  6. punchingdummy is offline

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     Style: TSK

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    You go to your strenghts..so if that is striking, then you strike. But, as other posters have indicated, you better understand grappling. that doesn't mean you are going to outgrapple them, but it will help you understand the game (and perhaps avoid an armbar or two). If you are a striker, then learn to grapple but focus on two skills: (1) avoiding the takedown (ala Cro Cop), and (2) getting back on your feet (ala chuck Liddell).
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     Style: Filthy Jailhouse Tactics

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    The weaknesses of grapplers? They can't handle d34dly eye gouges!

    (Sorry, no one had said it yet.)
    MY NAME IS ANTAGONY I SUCK AT COMBAT SPORTS KTHX

    "blahblahblah, but I don't think I'm going to train tonight."
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    "Well if that were true, then I'd really REALLY want to come train!"
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     Style: MMA

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Find another school.
    Seconded.
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     Style: Uechi Ryu, MMA, boxing

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    DO both. I am.
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     Style: Karate/Muay Thai

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    Study CroCop's (or some other decent standup fighter's) anti-grapple style...

    Train really really REALLY hard...

    Become part of the Croatian Military...

    and PRAY YOUR ASS OFF.

    Whatever you do, don't ask your Sensei...he'll bullshit you.
    Regards,
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    One guy gets sword and sheild, the other gets a net and a trident.
    Lions eat christians between rounds." - Strong Machine
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