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    Im generally in great health but lately my joints have been pretty sore (fingers, shoulders). I been taking 1500mg pill of glucosomine but i find it hasnt really been doing ****. Could it be the muscle supporting the joints is what is causing the pain? Anyone got any tips for recovery or to avoid recurring/future problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kravbizarre View Post
    Im generally in great health but lately my joints have been pretty sore (fingers, shoulders). I been taking 1500mg pill of glucosomine but i find it hasnt really been doing ****. Could it be the muscle supporting the joints is what is causing the pain? Anyone got any tips for recovery or to avoid recurring/future problems.

    Osteo Biflex (triple strength). It takes a few weeks to months to build up in your system, so make sure to take those fucking horsepills every day. But, I think you'll be pleased. It is spendy, though. I started taking it on recommend from my professor, with pretty much the same complaint you're making now. Yes, it has glucosamine, and chondroitin, and some other stuff. Fun fact, it's made from crushed sea shells. Tastes like it, too. The key is that you have to build it up in your system. Sorry, I don't know the exact chemistry.

    For muscles and surface pain, any sort of dit da jow, traditional or commercial - Tiger Balm red formula and just plain old-people Ben-Gay do the trick for me.

    (edit) if you're doing a lot of gripping, try taping your fingers. There's some good tuts on Bullshido and around the web.

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    Thanks sub. Yeah i only tape when something is sore (to prevent it from moving much). Ill give that osteo biflex a whirl considering i dont need a prescription for it (australia has alot of watered down stuff compared to whats stocked on american shelves).

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    I protect my joints/tendons/ligaments from BJJ by

    - eating a lot, particularly of animal protein and fats
    - getting plenty of high-quality sleep
    - not playing spider guard, lasso guard, or other strategies like spamming collar chokes that rely on a death grip on the gi
    - following a low-volume strength and conditioning program alongside grappling
    - being diligent with a daily yoga or morning warm-up practice.

    Through N=1 experimentation I've found that each of these greatly improved finger, wrist, shoulder, hip, back, ankle, neck, and knee soreness. I can't speak to magic pills or salves (though I do suspect that supplementing vitamin D has helped through the winter), but I can say that the meat and potatoes of body maintenance as I've described seem to have demonstrable results for myself and my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kravbizarre View Post
    Could it be the muscle supporting the joints is what is causing the pain? Anyone got any tips for recovery or to avoid recurring/future problems.
    Could it be your gripping technique needs work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Could it be your gripping technique needs work?
    Im inclined to say no as ive got very strong grips and actually take pride in my gripping technique. I think majority of my joint injuries are from scrambling for a position when either somone spazzes or i manage to land a sweep on a higher belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kravbizarre View Post
    Im inclined to say no as ive got very strong grips and actually take pride in my gripping technique. I think majority of my joint injuries are from scrambling for a position when either somone spazzes or i manage to land a sweep on a higher belt.
    I am just a small judoka with 17 years of experience, but it would be more healthy to know when to keep your grip loosely (better feeling for the partner as well) and when to tighten it to iron grip. You get more endurance and it is better for your joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Could it be your gripping technique needs work?
    Yeah, maybe release the death-grip...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    I protect my joints/tendons/ligaments from BJJ by

    - eating a lot, particularly of animal protein and fats
    - getting plenty of high-quality sleep
    - not playing spider guard, lasso guard, or other strategies like spamming collar chokes that rely on a death grip on the gi
    - following a low-volume strength and conditioning program alongside grappling
    - being diligent with a daily yoga or morning warm-up practice.

    Through N=1 experimentation I've found that each of these greatly improved finger, wrist, shoulder, hip, back, ankle, neck, and knee soreness. I can't speak to magic pills or salves (though I do suspect that supplementing vitamin D has helped through the winter), but I can say that the meat and potatoes of body maintenance as I've described seem to have demonstrable results for myself and my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Yeah, maybe release the death-grip...
    I generally use a 'rolled' grip. Like if i grab a sleeve or pants cuff ill roll the grip in to make a fist if that makes sense. I dont keep my arms all stiff and just brute force things. Ill use the lighter grips though and see how i go.

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