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    Does pure Western Boxing work against a kickboxer in an average gym?

    I started training Western Boxing for one reason: instead of being a jack of all trades, why not be a specialist?

    My question is if, in your experience, pure Western Boxing has been adequate against Kickboxers in the gym or do you just get the **** kicked out of you and cant glose the gap?

    How effective is boxing among the striking arts on it's own. We know it beats the crap out of Karate point fighters and Taekwondo guys but that's because those arts are inferior on so many levels and the talent pool stinks.

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    Depends on the kickboxer. Depends on the gloves. Depends on the rules. Depends on the ring size.

    Too many variables to say. Also you say it "beats the crap out of Karate point fighters and TKD" but I would refer you to the numerous UFC champions with high level TKD experience in their background. I would further refer you to one Lyoto Machida for an example of a Karate fighter that did all right for himself.

    Please clarify the situation for further input.

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    My old sanshou coach's favorite counter to most types of kicks was stepping forward with a right cross to the face. Works pretty well, if you manage it when they're pivoting or pendulum stepping. Could a boxer do it? Sure, but only if they're used to seeing those kicks coming at them. I'll bet a decent boxer could develop that skillset pretty quickly.

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    I want to know both under above the waist rules and Muay Thai, how well it matches up between middle of the road athletes that most likely duke it out in a gym. Is it possible to glose the gap and steamroll them with punches?

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    Machida won several bouts with his grappling background mixed in. He did not beat Sam Greco in the stand-up, for instance.

    And he did not face boxers or that many high level strikers in the UFC either...
    Last edited by Heuristic; 10/27/2017 2:41pm at .

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    It depends on how good they are with punches, IMHO.

    EDIT: I mean: it depends on how good the kickers are with punches, since it isn't all that obvious that the boxer can always "steamroll" other strikers with punches.

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    If leg kicks are allowed, the answer is generally no. Just go watch Rick Roufus vs that random Thai dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    If leg kicks are allowed, the answer is generally no. Just go watch Rick Roufus vs that random Thai dude.
    But people wear leg protectors in clubs

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    Isn't it more relevant how good the kickboxers boxing defense and transition game is, rather than pure punching ability?

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    I would like to hear from a boxer, how he felt about it. Any boxers in here?

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